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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What do you call it when you provide information that people may not know? Education maybe?

    Now let me ask a question. What is the point of Georgia, the state I live in, promoting information on exactly what is required to vote? georgia voter identification requirements2 Are they helping people learn how to circumvent the law, or are they helping ensure people have what they need when the time comes?
    Your state and it's representatives have a vested interest in getting that information to you.

    La Raza does not in any way have a vested interest in telling people where they can vote without ID.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its a marxist hispanic supremacy group. La Raza actually means the race.
    Yes which is a stupid name since Mexican is a nationality.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    National Council of La Raza | The Translation of Our Name



    I tend to think they know more about why they named themselves what they did than you. And no matter what they all themselves, educating voters on requirements to vote is a good thing.
    They are a Hispanic organization using a Spanish word, but now they want to say it doesn't mean what it means.

    They are getting more stupid every day.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Every one of the members of La Raza that are from Mexico know this system, as that is what we have here in Mexico.

    I wonder why they think it is a good idea for Mexico but not for the US.
    No one is promoting a national ID for voting. What some object to are patchwork state standards, for reasons we've discussed in great detail

    If someone did push national standards and a national ID, I'd support it. Make the rules consistent from state to state, automatically register all eligible citizens when they turn 18, updated automatically through change of address forms/IRS data/DL data/SS or Medicare data/other benefits data, with consistent standards and consistent policies from state to state. Those would be huge steps in the right direction and I'd support them 100%. Bring us into the 21st century.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It's a long article - if there's a point in there, please make it.

    And I was responding to U.S. Conservative. He asserts that La Raza providing information to, anyone, really, somehow indicates an intent to commit 'voter fraud.' My question to him, and to you, is what can possibly be wrong with informing any voter about the ID requirements of his state? He couldn't or wouldn't answer, and you haven't either.

    If you don't want to be accused of taking that position because of naked animus for the La Raza or the hispanics who follow them, just answer the simple question - what's wrong with informing ANY group, white, black, hispanic, evangelical, gun owners, patriots, homosexuals, union workers, women, conservative women, etc. about ID requirements in their state?

    The answer is nothing, obviously.
    There is IMHO a big difference between informing legal citizens of the requirements in their states, and blanketly putting out a list of those states that don't require ID as a wink and a nod to the illegals on where to vote illegally. But you know that.
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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Really? Where does it say that? Just because that is what you would do with the information does not mean that is what every one would do.
    Oh so now you think everyone else is stupid.
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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Your state and it's representatives have a vested interest in getting that information to you.

    La Raza does not in any way have a vested interest in telling people where they can vote without ID.
    I guess you didn't see the graphic. It had five categories. ID required, photo or non-photo. ID requested - photo or non-photo. And no ID required. That's useful information to everyone wanting to vote on Tuesday.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    All this confirms is what we already know. We need a national ID to vote law, end the debate. Until then we will see more tips from many on avoidance at best and vote manipulation at worst. With all the things you need an ID for, including dealing with the government in other ways, it is absurd to suggest obtaining an ID somehow discriminates and excludes.
    No it doesn't. It's a deception to convinced liked minded people that it does. But no where has any information or evidence of fraud been shown of any significance.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There is IMHO a big difference between informing legal citizens of the requirements in their states, and blanketly putting out a list of those states that don't require ID as a wink and a nod to the illegals on where to vote illegally. But you know that.
    You might have a point if that's what the list did. Unfortunately for your straw man, the graphic was a summary "informing legal citizens of the requirements in their states." It listed all 50 states and the general ID requirements of all 50 of them.

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    Re: La Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    No one is promoting a national ID for voting. What some object to are patchwork state standards, for reasons we've discussed in great detail

    If someone did push national standards and a national ID, I'd support it. Make the rules consistent from state to state, automatically register all eligible citizens when they turn 18, updated automatically through change of address forms/IRS data/DL data/SS or Medicare data/other benefits data, with consistent standards and consistent policies from state to state. Those would be huge steps in the right direction and I'd support them 100%. Bring us into the 21st century.
    None of that automatically anything works.

    People have to make the effort to go down to the office and show their documents to have their picture taken, plus their fingerprints taken as well.

    The point of it being national, is that the states would have nothing to do with it, it would be federal. The card from all 50 states plus D.C. would be the same and highly recognizable.

    My point was that every member of La Raza that is from Mexico has an IFE Card in their pocket, which is our federal voting card, and nobody votes without it being not only in their possession, but valid as well. If you let your IFE card expire, you cannot do anything like cash a check or do any bank transactions.

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