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    Re: Jim Crow returns Millions of minority voters threatened by electoral purge

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It might make good sense, but not when all you're using to check is first and last name. It's guaranteed to generate 100s of thousands of false positives, which is a feature, not a bug, of the process.
    The article may suggest that, but it is not clear that the process only uses the first and last name. It appears that we have other data elements being looked at. The suspect part was the bit about the SSN sometimes not matching but still triggering a duplicate condition. But even the article is not saying the frequency that is happening, or what other data elements matched that caused SSN discrepancy to be ignored. It all still comes down to the process that I offer we do not know enough about to suggest Republicans are arbitrarily removing voters.

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    Re: Jim Crow returns Millions of minority voters threatened by electoral purge

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    The article may suggest that, but it is not clear that the process only uses the first and last name. It appears that we have other data elements being looked at. The suspect part was the bit about the SSN sometimes not matching but still triggering a duplicate condition. But even the article is not saying the frequency that is happening, or what other data elements matched that caused SSN discrepancy to be ignored. It all still comes down to the process that I offer we do not know enough about to suggest Republicans are arbitrarily removing voters.
    What seems clear is the list is very flawed and full of false positives. In NC there were 192,000 'matches.' But the FBI guy they hired to prosecute 'voter fraud' has charged exactly no one with double voting, in five months. That's awfully revealing about the quality of the list, which is pretty much a big pile of dog poo.

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    Re: Jim Crow returns Millions of minority voters threatened by electoral purge

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    What seems clear is the list is very flawed and full of false positives. In NC there were 192,000 'matches.' But the FBI guy they hired to prosecute 'voter fraud' has charged exactly no one with double voting, in five months. That's awfully revealing about the quality of the list, which is pretty much a big pile of dog poo.
    Perhaps, if we knew more we could be sure about this list. Until then...

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    Re: Jim Crow returns Millions of minority voters threatened by electoral purge

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Perhaps, if we knew more we could be sure about this list. Until then...
    It's possible, but I'd be upset if I was a NC taxpayer and the FBI guy we hired to prosecute voter fraud got a good list of 192,000 names of criminals, and couldn't in five months find a single person to charge with a crime....

    In fact, to date, Lawson [NC Board of Elections spokesman] admits that [former FBI agent] Stuber has found only errors and not one verified fraudulent voter.

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    Re: Jim Crow returns Millions of minority voters threatened by electoral purge

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It's possible, but I'd be upset if I was a NC taxpayer and the FBI guy we hired to prosecute voter fraud got a good list of 192,000 names of criminals, and couldn't in five months find a single person to charge with a crime....
    I'm not saying otherwise. But if that number of people are really being excluded from voting you would think ABC, NBC, CNN, and a host of others would be running the story non-stop 24 hours a day camped out in the driveway of every Republican Candidate in the States in question asking a plethora of very stupid questions at every opportunity.

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    Re: Jim Crow returns Millions of minority voters threatened by electoral purge

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Interesting, I was just talking to my husband last night how we haven't received our polling information yet. So reading this got me thinking about it again. We are both registered, I am independent and he is a democrat. I just looked on the website below under registration information to confirm where we are supposed to go and no surprise - even though we live at the same address and have for over 8 years and have both voted at the same church the entire time, suddenly his place has been moved about a mile away to some kind of public housing complex but mine remains at the church. Then when I put our address under the general polling place, the church comes up. Kind of suspicious when you think about it. Especially considering he received no notification of the move. Maybe just a coincidence, maybe not.


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    Re: Jim Crow returns Millions of minority voters threatened by electoral purge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    As the article states: "Al Jazeera America visited these and several other potential double voters. John Paul Williams of Alexandria insists he has never used the alias “John R. Williams.” “I’ve never lived in Georgia,” he says.Jo Cox, wife of suspected double voter Robert Glen Cox of Virginia, says she has a solid alibi for him. Cox “is 85 years old and handicapped. He wasn’t in Georgia. Never voted there,” she says. He has also never used the middle name “Dewey.” Twenty-three percent of the names — nearly 1.6 million of them — lack matching middle names. “Jr.” and “Sr.” are ignored, potentially disenfranchising two generations in the same family. And, notably, of those who may have voted twice in the 2012 presidential election, 27 percent were listed as “inactive” voters, meaning that almost 1.9 million may not even have voted once in that race, according to Crosscheck’s own records. Al Jazeera America met with Kevin Antonio Hayes at his home in Durham. He is listed as having voted a second time, in Virginia, with the middle name Thomas, Hayes and his mother insist that he did not vote at all."

    Might help if people actually read the article before commenting..
    I wonder if AL Jeez knows that voter fraud doesn't require that the real voter is a willing accomplice? Apparently not.

    In other words, what matters here is whether the Georgia vote was a stolen identity. If so then Mr Williams troubles are not the fault of Crosscheck but of the identity thief.
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    Re: Jim Crow returns Millions of minority voters threatened by electoral purge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Some? Probably. Their are racists in both camps. But its pretty clear the GOP doesnt like minorities to vote because it mainly goes to the Dems.
    Are all Democrat Senators and Representatives racists? How many of them are avoiding The One on the golf course? Why don't they want the 1/6th black president to appear with them? It is racism, isn't it? Why won't they surround themselves with the illegal aliens they have invited into the nation? Don't they like their brown illegal aliens? It is racism, isn't it? Why won't they surround themselves with the Islamofascists they have invited into this country? Is it the dark or olive skin? It is racism, isn't it?

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    Re: Jim Crow returns Millions of minority voters threatened by electoral purge

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I wonder if AL Jeez knows that voter fraud doesn't require that the real voter is a willing accomplice? Apparently not.

    In other words, what matters here is whether the Georgia vote was a stolen identity. If so then Mr Williams troubles are not the fault of Crosscheck but of the identity thief.
    Why would it be a stolen identity - the two men had different names (John Paul, and John R.). Per the article, Twenty-three percent of the names — nearly 1.6 million of them — lack matching middle names.

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    Re: Jim Crow returns Millions of minority voters threatened by electoral purge

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You vote in a church? What happened to separation of church and state? Jim Crow returns Millions of minority voters threatened by electoral purge
    right? Technically it's in the school cafeteria but it's still connected to the church.
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