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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    It has yet to explain the origins of man.

    In that sense, Evolution is still a THEORY.
    Gravity is also a theory, but I don't see you chucking yourself off the Grand Canyon to stick it to the Athiests.

    Humans evolved from an earlier species.

    This is categorical.

    But nah, we have to go with this idea as to not offend the Christians:


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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I know your support group tells you so, but no, it does not.

    The real truth in all this - scientifically and otherwise- will be vastly more complex than such a poorly refined theory as evolution. Evolution will be a mere footnote to the reality of it all.

    And regardless of what it is, evolution or otherwise, it had to have the hand of a supernatural force in order to begin. THAT is a fact.
    A supernatural force is not out of the question.

    But it is not fact because it has not been definitively proven.

    You have no credibility to say what you're saying about Evolution.

    It is not a poorly refined theory, it has been studied and corroborated by literally mountains of evidence the prove, definitively that it is a real phenomena.

    Evolution denial is absolute nonsense and driven solely by a very unhealthy ideological insanity.

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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    The Pope needed to say these things. Be honest here, consider the consequence if the Pope went with say Paul Broun's typical response about science, evolution, the big bang, and other discovery... "all lies straight from the pit of hell."

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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    The big bang is hogwash... it's the religion of cosmology.

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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    In the most rudimentary of terms, there's not a stitch of proof that an amoeba turned into a fish, which turned into a lizard, which turned into a dog, which turned into a horse. There is no proof that genomes have changed from simple organisms into more complicated ones.

    That's why it can't shake that bothersome word, "Theory".
    From your response one can assume you either never took a basic science course in high school or you totally ignored the teacher because you already 'knew' the Truth.

    As used in science, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    A supernatural force is not out of the question.

    But it is not fact because it has not been definitively proven.

    You have no credibility to say what you're saying about Evolution.

    It is not a poorly refined theory, it has been studied and corroborated by literally mountains of evidence the prove, definitively that it is a real phenomena.

    Evolution denial is absolute nonsense and driven solely by a very unhealthy ideological insanity.
    I didn't say Evolution doesn't carry truths. However, it's a very basic theory that makes too many wild leaps with little to no hard evidence. Logic both supports and fails different parts of the theory.

    The bottom line is this: whatever the explanation or theory or process, how did it begin, and what created the laws of science for it to unfold?

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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    it's a very basic theory that makes too many wild leaps with little to no hard evidence.
    That is absolute nonsense, again informed only by an ideological need to refute science because it doesn't gel perfectly with your flimsy religion.

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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    The big bang is hogwash... it's the religion of cosmology.
    ... and you KNOW this or you BELIEVE this to be true? because?
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    ... and you KNOW this or you BELIEVE this to be true? because?
    Everyone knows Allah created the universe.

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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    From your response one can assume you either never took a basic science course in high school or you totally ignored the teacher because you already 'knew' the Truth.
    Wow, you just can't get past hyperbole as a conversational point.

    A theory is also a reasoned guess in everyday language, which I theorized would pass the "get it" test, but apparently did not. I didn't mean to offend your religious, evolutionary sensibilities and send you reaching for a scientific dictionary.

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