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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    All I know is that every time a Twister takes out trailer park there's always a brand new shiney Boeing 737 sitting there in the rubble.

    Built by the choas.

    Every time they set off a nuclear weapon there appeared a shopping mall complete with infrastructure.

    Because mass disorderly destruction breeds order right ?

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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    [ouQUOTE=Erod;1063927332]Careful. This is the lifeblood of your party. Without it, you'd all fit in a phone booth.[/QUOTE]
    I don't have a party however your assumption of knowledge in your lack is a beautiful display of this effect.

    Thank you for volunteering an example

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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    This is cute and all, but it still stands that the most basic questions, albeit infinitely complicated, challenge the religion of Evolution. Christianity doesn't argue with evolution as a fundamentally possible process, only its explanation of origin.

    But carry on with the "you're stupid" stuff. It's so endearing.
    When I went to school I took multiple biology classes that covered evolution starting all the way from the highly simplified in roughly the fourth grade to much more complex aspects of evolution in my senior year in high school. Avoiding the situation of knowing anything at all was impossible for me, no matter how cleverly I could have planned to be sick during those lessons. The topic occupied entire chapters of textbooks, with mid-chapter quizzes and final exams all along the way. So what I want to know is, how do people like you manage to know nothing at all?

    If you really want to know something, read through lifeorigins.

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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real
    Oh he just says that because he must have met Kaley Cuoco...
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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I'm not attacking science. I'm just saying we have woefully incomplete science.
    :translation:

    I only like science that says what I want to hear... Screw facts.
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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Once again, atheists fail to acknowledge that the vast majority of Christians accept science
    ... Unless it's climatology, evolutionary biology, modern medicine (vaccines, blood transfusions, stem cell research), geology...
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    This should cause some interesting discussions

    More here:
    Pope Francis declares ... God isn't 'a magician with a magic wand'

    and here:
    Considering the the Big Bang theory was first proposed by a Catholic priest, I don't see why this is news.

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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No, you don't understand the discussion at hand. You run from the question of origin. Big Bang is a theory on origin. That, by definition, led to the existence of you and I, correct?
    And we know that that Bang left the VAST, VAST, VAST, majority Stars, and of stars with planets with NO life.
    which goes for Fenton too:
    The Universe is Chaotic, NOT a 747. Galaxies are colliding, Planets and stars being destroyed and created.
    Our planet may be one in a Trillion and you make a perspective error by assuming this lucky (but perhaps inevitable corner/corners/tiny locales/oases) is "gods" work.
    99.99999999999999999% is Hostile to human life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod
    establish the origin of life, and how that evolved into millions of different creatures. And the original point remains, there are no fossil records that link the transition of one species into something entirely different as evolution insists happened.
    The fossil record is REPLETE with transitional species. (and growing Yearly withOUT contradiction).
    Every extant animal has fossil progenitors (look alikes and 99% DNA relatives), and even extinct species have them.

    WE have predecessors and relatives.
    short list)

    Are those gods screw ups?? or Were they utterly Predictable fossil finds BASED ONLY ON EVOLUTIONARY FACT.

    As further and strong Evidence of Evolution, we (and other species) also have Useless ANATOMICAL VESTIGES of our prior relatives.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/philos...-vestiges.html
    Virtually NO Kreationist Klowns, who haunt/blight that section, even dared enter that string.
    Hardly a separate, immaculate, or ID, result.
    Like an "Intelligent Landscaper" who left tree stumps and Fence parts from the previous owner's crappy yard.
    That's right, even we humans, "created in gods image", are very imperfect and contain Evidence of our OWN incomplete evolution/speciation!
    No doubt in a billion years, we will also be treated as transitional and Primitive.

    What is not only "woefully incomplete", but has ZERO evidence is god/gods. Tens of thousands of which have all gone by the wayside as their being an explanation for some natural phenomenon HAVE, one-after the other, been Explained by science. Now whittled down to just two.
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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    If he's so " unqualified " then you should at least be able to answer his question.

    The people that claim order arose from arbitrary chaos are the ones who are not qualified to having this discussion.

    Matter, mass and energy out of nothing violates the laws of thermodynamics.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    All I know is that every time a Twister takes out trailer park there's always a brand new shiney Boeing 737 sitting there in the rubble.

    Built by the choas.

    Every time they set off a nuclear weapon there appeared a shopping mall complete with infrastructure.

    Because mass disorderly destruction breeds order right ?
    Yet clouds produce snowflakes, supernovas produce planets, volcanos produce islands.

    All of these phenomena are very well explained, yet they do not violate the laws of thermodynamics. Entropy always increases in a closed system, it doesn't have to go up in every single unit inside that system, as long as the system goes up overall.
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    Re: Pope says evolution, Big Bang are real

    So far as I can tell, the pope is saying that the big bang and theory of evolution are not contrary to the idea of god, but supportive.

    Nothing shocking here.
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

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