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Protests continue today as Dalai Lama visits Alabama Theatre, Regions Field

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Protests continue today as Dalai Lama visits Alabama Theatre, Regions Field | AL.com

BIRMIMNGHAM, Alabama -- Protests continued today in the heart of Downtown Birmingham as hundreds gathered outside the Alabama Theatre where the Dalai Lama took part in an interfaith "Beyond Belief" moderated discussion.

Their chants could be heard beyond the intersection at 3rd Avenue North and 19th Street where they convened this morning in support of religious freedom for those who pray to the Buddhist deity Dorje Shugden.

"False Dalai Lama! Give religious freedom!" they chanted. Bold red and black signs danced in the hands of the more than 200 protesters along to the rhythm of beating drums. Words like "hypocrisy," "ostracism" and "stop lying" pierced the blue sky.

The protesters -- brought together by the California-based non-profit International Shugden Community (ISC) -- claim that the Dalai Lama has persecuted the members of that group and caused them to be mistreated and ostracized in Tibetan exile communities around the world, including India and the United States.

Many have traveled around the world following the Dalai Lama on his various tours, said ISC spokesperson Len Foley, who himself flew in from California with his family to take part in the protest.

"We are here on behalf of a silent majority of millions of people who have felt the pain of religious persecution," he said. "This is the most important issue in our lives."

Members of the Shugden sect, said Foley, have been barred from many businesses, monasteries and hospitals in Tibetan communities. Signs hang outside business throughout India, he said, that forbid entrance to anyone who practices Dorje Shugden.

The group, he said, is asking the Dalai Lama--who they call the "worst dictator in this modern day"--to accept the following four points:

To allow anyone who wishes to practice Dorje Shugden the freedom to do so.
To stop completely the discrimination against Shugden practitioners
To allow all Shugden monks and nuns who have been expelled to return to their monasteries and nunneries, and to receive the same material and spiritual rights as non-Shugden practitioners
To write to Tibetan communities throughout the world telling them that they should apply practically the three above points
Foley said protests will continue this afternoon at Regions Field, where the Dalai Lama is scheduled to give a talk on the "Secular Ethics in our Time." From here, many of the protesters, he said, plan to follow the Dalai Lama when he travels to the Northeast to the areas of Princeton, Boston and New York.
 
Protests continue today as Dalai Lama visits Alabama Theatre, Regions Field | AL.com

BIRMIMNGHAM, Alabama -- Protests continued today in the heart of Downtown Birmingham as hundreds gathered outside the Alabama Theatre where the Dalai Lama took part in an interfaith "Beyond Belief" moderated discussion.

Their chants could be heard beyond the intersection at 3rd Avenue North and 19th Street where they convened this morning in support of religious freedom for those who pray to the Buddhist deity Dorje Shugden.

"False Dalai Lama! Give religious freedom!" they chanted. Bold red and black signs danced in the hands of the more than 200 protesters along to the rhythm of beating drums. Words like "hypocrisy," "ostracism" and "stop lying" pierced the blue sky.

The protesters -- brought together by the California-based non-profit International Shugden Community (ISC) -- claim that the Dalai Lama has persecuted the members of that group and caused them to be mistreated and ostracized in Tibetan exile communities around the world, including India and the United States.

Many have traveled around the world following the Dalai Lama on his various tours, said ISC spokesperson Len Foley, who himself flew in from California with his family to take part in the protest.

"We are here on behalf of a silent majority of millions of people who have felt the pain of religious persecution," he said. "This is the most important issue in our lives."

Members of the Shugden sect, said Foley, have been barred from many businesses, monasteries and hospitals in Tibetan communities. Signs hang outside business throughout India, he said, that forbid entrance to anyone who practices Dorje Shugden.

The group, he said, is asking the Dalai Lama--who they call the "worst dictator in this modern day"--to accept the following four points:

To allow anyone who wishes to practice Dorje Shugden the freedom to do so.
To stop completely the discrimination against Shugden practitioners
To allow all Shugden monks and nuns who have been expelled to return to their monasteries and nunneries, and to receive the same material and spiritual rights as non-Shugden practitioners
To write to Tibetan communities throughout the world telling them that they should apply practically the three above points
Foley said protests will continue this afternoon at Regions Field, where the Dalai Lama is scheduled to give a talk on the "Secular Ethics in our Time." From here, many of the protesters, he said, plan to follow the Dalai Lama when he travels to the Northeast to the areas of Princeton, Boston and New York.

Sounds like 1984 to me. If you butter someone's bread, they will say almost anything. Funny thing is, some people will believe it; won't even double check.
 
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ooogey wooogey booogey!!!!!
 
Protests continue today as Dalai Lama visits Alabama Theatre, Regions Field | AL.com

BIRMIMNGHAM, Alabama -- Protests continued today in the heart of Downtown Birmingham as hundreds gathered outside the Alabama Theatre where the Dalai Lama took part in an interfaith "Beyond Belief" moderated discussion.

Their chants could be heard beyond the intersection at 3rd Avenue North and 19th Street where they convened this morning in support of religious freedom for those who pray to the Buddhist deity Dorje Shugden.

"False Dalai Lama! Give religious freedom!" they chanted. Bold red and black signs danced in the hands of the more than 200 protesters along to the rhythm of beating drums. Words like "hypocrisy," "ostracism" and "stop lying" pierced the blue sky.

The protesters -- brought together by the California-based non-profit International Shugden Community (ISC) -- claim that the Dalai Lama has persecuted the members of that group and caused them to be mistreated and ostracized in Tibetan exile communities around the world, including India and the United States.

Many have traveled around the world following the Dalai Lama on his various tours, said ISC spokesperson Len Foley, who himself flew in from California with his family to take part in the protest.

"We are here on behalf of a silent majority of millions of people who have felt the pain of religious persecution," he said. "This is the most important issue in our lives."

Members of the Shugden sect, said Foley, have been barred from many businesses, monasteries and hospitals in Tibetan communities. Signs hang outside business throughout India, he said, that forbid entrance to anyone who practices Dorje Shugden.

The group, he said, is asking the Dalai Lama--who they call the "worst dictator in this modern day"--to accept the following four points:

To allow anyone who wishes to practice Dorje Shugden the freedom to do so.
To stop completely the discrimination against Shugden practitioners
To allow all Shugden monks and nuns who have been expelled to return to their monasteries and nunneries, and to receive the same material and spiritual rights as non-Shugden practitioners
To write to Tibetan communities throughout the world telling them that they should apply practically the three above points
Foley said protests will continue this afternoon at Regions Field, where the Dalai Lama is scheduled to give a talk on the "Secular Ethics in our Time." From here, many of the protesters, he said, plan to follow the Dalai Lama when he travels to the Northeast to the areas of Princeton, Boston and New York.

There's nothing new in the Dorje Shugden controversy. The followers of the New Kadampa Tradition have always been quite militant and have been known to exhibit cultish behaviour. I don't think their complaints of persecution hold much water, given how little power the DL exerts over any secular authority. This is an internal skirmish within one school (Vajrayana) of Buddhism. I wouldn't pay it much heed.
 
I have come abroad for more than 10 years. In these years I am constantly accompanied by disappointment which finally turn into despair. I used to be just as passionate when leaving my home and family in Tibet to work for the

rejuvenation of the Tibet nation. But my passion met with only suspect, desertion, and poker-faced fellows. People in CTA put only their own interest on top of their priority list, they are no representative of the entire nation. I am

unemployed and homeless now and have to struggle on the verge of foreign soil. What I did over the years makes it hard for me to return home. But it should be noted that a nation of 6 million should not be put in the hand of a “sykiong

” born and grow on alien soil. His Holiness is getting older and if he pass away, the outlook of the nation gets gloomy. There is even rumor these days that His Holiness "Yeshi Norbu" has a son. Tibet is in chaos and that deeply grieves

me.
 
I have come abroad for more than 10 years. In these years I am constantly accompanied by disappointment which finally turn into despair. I used to be just as passionate when leaving my home and family in Tibet to work for the

rejuvenation of the Tibet nation. But my passion met with only suspect, desertion, and poker-faced fellows. People in CTA put only their own interest on top of their priority list, they are no representative of the entire nation. I am

unemployed and homeless now and have to struggle on the verge of foreign soil. What I did over the years makes it hard for me to return home. But it should be noted that a nation of 6 million should not be put in the hand of a “sykiong

” born and grow on alien soil. His Holiness is getting older and if he pass away, the outlook of the nation gets gloomy. There is even rumor these days that His Holiness "Yeshi Norbu" has a son. Tibet is in chaos and that deeply grieves

me.

I feel very sorry to hear your story and I wish you strength to keep your hope alive. I don't know what a 'sykiong' is, but I suspect it's not a compliment. Are you calling the Dalai Lama that? He was born in Tibet. As far as gossip about him having a son, well we know what the Lord Buddha said about gossip: "ask yourself, is it true, is it necessary, is it kind?"
 
Why would anyone in their right mind protest a pacifist?

Why?

Oh yeah communists would.
 
Why would anyone in their right mind protest a pacifist?

Why?

Oh yeah communists would.

Yes, they have a grievance; ergo, they must be communists.

Counting the post until the hacks turn this into another "here's why liberals are evil" diatribe.
 
Yes, they have a grievance; ergo, they must be communists.

Counting the post until the hacks turn this into another "here's why liberals are evil" diatribe.

What you call a grievance I all authoritarianism and murder.
 
The protesters are murdering people? I didn't see that in the OP.

Oh authoritarians don't murder dissidents?

There aren't a **** ton of people who want the Dalai Lama dead due to his ideas? and Buddhists have not been slaughtered because their religion conflicts with the communist or Islamic crowed?

I suppose this discussion wouldn't even exist if the authoritarians and Muslims didn't...
 
Oh authoritarians don't murder dissidents?

There aren't a **** ton of people who want the Dalai Lama dead due to his ideas? and Buddhists have not been slaughtered because their religion conflicts with the communist or Islamic crowed?

I suppose this discussion wouldn't even exist if the authoritarians and Muslims didn't...

You're not making any sense. In this particular dispute, who is killing who?
 
You're not making any sense. In this particular dispute, who is killing who?

Seriously?

Obviously you get your news from "Thinkprogress" fellow libertarian progressive covert.
 
You didn't ask or propose a question to me...

As far as I'm concerned you're dodging my assessments.

Yes I did. Post 11, and again in post 13.
 
Yes I did. Post 11, and again in post 13.

Those are passive statements NOT questions...

Oh yeah you're a progressive minion and NOT an academic so I fully understand the confusion on your part..

Buddhists practice self immolation and other creative ways of self martyr - they're not terrorists..... You do realize Buddhists wont kill a bug?
 
Those are passive statements NOT questions...

Oh yeah you're a progressive minion and NOT an academic so I fully understand the confusion on your part..

Buddhists practice self immolation and other creative ways of self martyr - they're not terrorists..... You do realize Buddhists wont kill a bug?

The one in post 13 was definitely a direct question. You're the one who went off on some tangent about communists, and you're the one who brought up people killing people. The posts are there; everyone can see them.
 
I suppose this discussion wouldn't even exist if the authoritarians and Muslims didn't...

I suppose this line of discussion wouldn't happen if you bothered to take an interest in the subject and learn that it has nothing to do with communists, China supporters or apologists, or opponents of a free Tibet. It's an internal theological dispute within the Vajrayana school of Buddhism about the status of the 'deity' Dorje Shugden. I guess the opportunity to bring your political partisan BS into every single thread overcame your interest in the subject of this discussion.

Dorje Shugden controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I suppose this line of discussion wouldn't happen if you bothered to take an interest in the subject and learn that it has nothing to do with communists, China supporters or apologists, or opponents of a free Tibet. It's an internal theological dispute within the Vajrayana school of Buddhism about the status of the 'deity' Dorje Shugden. I guess the opportunity to bring your political partisan BS into every single thread overcame your interest in the subject of this discussion.

Dorje Shugden controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Precisely. It's internecine squabbling. I have no clue where his whole "communists" tangent came from.
 
Precisely. It's internecine squabbling. I have no clue where his whole "communists" tangent came from.

It's Mr Nick, it comes from where his every intervention comes from: paranoia about the Red Peril.
 
I suppose this line of discussion wouldn't happen if you bothered to take an interest in the subject and learn that it has nothing to do with communists, China supporters or apologists, or opponents of a free Tibet. It's an internal theological dispute within the Vajrayana school of Buddhism about the status of the 'deity' Dorje Shugden. I guess the opportunity to bring your political partisan BS into every single thread overcame your interest in the subject of this discussion.

Dorje Shugden controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Oh I have an interest in Islam and have been studying the religion for 15 years, however my intent was neutral and wasn't to prove Islam was violent, however presently I don't have to make much of a case considering Shraia Muslims are cutting peoples heads off left and right and attacking anyone and everyone they can in alleged terrorist attacks...

Should I just ignore reality and be a ****ing retard like the rest or should I take all this abnormal Islamic violence into reality and document these cases?

The truth is that people like you are too brainwashed to even accept that there is a group of nuts out there killing people for no good ****ing reason.

I would love for you to explain to the families of these victims how their murders were warranted - if you're so passionate about your ideas then maybe you can do that?

Oh yeah you cant because you're a "studio gangster." or a little man on a soapbox talking ****.
 
Oh I have an interest in Islam and have been studying the religion for 15 years, however my intent was neutral and wasn't to prove Islam was violent, however presently I don't have to make much of a case considering Shraia Muslims are cutting peoples heads off left and right and attacking anyone and everyone they can in alleged terrorist attacks...

Should I just ignore reality and be a ****ing retard like the rest or should I take all this abnormal Islamic violence into reality and document these cases?

The truth is that people like you are too brainwashed to even accept that there is a group of nuts out there killing people for no good ****ing reason.

I would love for you to explain to the families of these victims how their murders were warranted - if you're so passionate about your ideas then maybe you can do that?

Oh yeah you cant because you're a "studio gangster." or a little man on a soapbox talking ****.

Islamic violence has literally nothing to do with the subject of the thread.
 
Islamic violence has literally nothing to do with the subject of the thread.

Oh it does when radical Muslims attack Buddhists for no reason other than NOT being Muslim..

You read enough to understand this or are you just trying to defend Islam because you're just the PC Queen.
 
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