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    Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    MOSCOW (AP) President Vladimir Putin of Russia said Friday that the world is becoming an increasingly dangerous place because of U.S. attempts to enforce its will on other countries and that his nation will not comply.

    If the United State fails to abandon its "desire of eternal domination," then "hopes for peaceful and stable development will be illusory, and today's upheavals will herald the collapse of global world order," Putin said during a meeting that lasted about three hours in the Black Sea resort of Sochi.

    His voice strained with anger, Putin accused the U.S. and its allies of trying to "tailor the world exclusively to their needs" since the end of the Cold War, using economic pressure and military force and often supporting extremist groups to achieve their goals.

    He cited the wars in Iraq, Libya and Syria as examples of flawed moves that have led to chaos and left Washington and its allies "fighting against the results of their own policy."

    "They are throwing their might to remove the risks they have created themselves, and they are paying an ever increasing price," Putin said.

    In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki reacted to Putin's speech by saying the U.S. "does not seek confrontation with Russia, but we cannot and will not compromise on the principles on which security in Europe and North America rest."

    She said there may be disagreements, "but we remain committed to upholding Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity."

    The Russian leader is well known for having said that the breakup of the Soviet Union was "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe" of the 20th century.

    But Putin denied allegations that Russia wants to rebuild the Soviet empire.

    Evoking the archetypal image of the Russian bear, Putin warned that his nation will firmly stand its ground to defend its vital interests.

    Though, I believe these accusations about America wanting to dominate geopolitical situations to our advantage, Putin and Russia are no better. What's scary is how far in a standoff, with both sides pushing for more concessions and assets, will they drive this competition?

    Between natural disasters, environmental impact, Ebola like diseases, financial instability, ISIS/terrorism and Chinese hackers how much more strife does the world really need?
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Though, I believe these accusations about America wanting to dominate geopolitical situations to our advantage, Putin and Russia are no better. What's scary is how far in a standoff, with both sides pushing for more concessions and assets, will they drive this competition?

    Between natural disasters, environmental impact, Ebola like diseases, financial instability, ISIS/terrorism and Chinese hackers how much more strife does the world really need?
    I have been watching the US Russian relationship for quite some time and Putin's accusations are disingenuous. It is understandable that the Russians were avoid that the Americans ignored them, were condescending or helped them as the situation seemed to the Americans to warrant and higher priorities demanded. That they have returned to trying to harm the USA is not new. The most costly symptom of this strategy was the organization of the support of Saddam against the Security Council and Bush. But yugoslavia, Libya or Georgia and Syria were the same.

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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
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    Though, I believe these accusations about America wanting to dominate geopolitical situations to our advantage, Putin and Russia are no better. What's scary is how far in a standoff, with both sides pushing for more concessions and assets, will they drive this competition?

    Between natural disasters, environmental impact, Ebola like diseases, financial instability, ISIS/terrorism and Chinese hackers how much more strife does the world really need?
    I think we agree on this topic. He's right, we are undermining global security, started back in 2003 and has snowballed ever since,...actually since both Sadam and the Taliban and even al Queda were once "allies" that we armed, and Saudi Arabian royalty still are, I guess it even started before 2003. However, Putin is definitely not one to be talking. And lastly, no with everything already going on we don't need more, however the MICs in these two countries see gravy, dessert, and an aperitif, not just meat and potatoes. These MICs are in charge these days, I have no doubt, and are thrilled with the escalations and probably are doing everything they can to assure our leaders keep the world on high alert.
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    It's best to ignore the old man's ramblings.
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Putin accuses US of undermining global stability




    Though, I believe these accusations about America wanting to dominate geopolitical situations to our advantage, Putin and Russia are no better. What's scary is how far in a standoff, with both sides pushing for more concessions and assets, will they drive this competition?

    Between natural disasters, environmental impact, Ebola like diseases, financial instability, ISIS/terrorism and Chinese hackers how much more strife does the world really need?
    As if taking Crimea and invading the Ukraine enhances global stability?

    Yeah, right.
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    As if taking Crimea and invading the Ukraine enhances global stability?

    Yeah, right.
    In fairness, his incursion seems to have caused considerably less casualties, and considerably less turmoil locally, and dramatically less instability globally than our incursions into the ME.
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I think we agree on this topic. He's right, we are undermining global security, started back in 2003 and has snowballed ever since,...actually since both Sadam and the Taliban and even al Queda were once "allies" that we armed, and Saudi Arabian royalty still are, I guess it even started before 2003. However, Putin is definitely not one to be talking. And lastly, no with everything already going on we don't need more, however the MICs in these two countries see gravy, dessert, and an aperitif, not just meat and potatoes. These MICs are in charge these days, I have no doubt, and are thrilled with the escalations and probably are doing everything they can to assure our leaders keep the world on high alert.
    I believe we made some really poor decisions to democratize and nation build a bunch of sectarian countries in the ME, that all efforts have completely gone into the pooper. It's cost more money, lives and resources than it secured. But rather than admit to a failed policy and concept, including the preemptive attacks on terrorism, they double down on the moronic nature of it all. At some point, we're going to have to let some of that region settle its own governing problems and only respond to serious threats.


    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    As if taking Crimea and invading the Ukraine enhances global stability?

    Yeah, right.
    It does for Russia's economy. They rely heavily on Ukrainian oil/gas reserves, purchases and pipelines to do business, especially with Europe's winter needs. It's all a matter of perspective.
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Putin accuses US of undermining global stability




    Though, I believe these accusations about America wanting to dominate geopolitical situations to our advantage, Putin and Russia are no better. What's scary is how far in a standoff, with both sides pushing for more concessions and assets, will they drive this competition?

    Between natural disasters, environmental impact, Ebola like diseases, financial instability, ISIS/terrorism and Chinese hackers how much more strife does the world really need?
    Putin is trying to talk to the anti-war and isolationist Americans. He is talking himself right into their heads so that he can do what others have successfully done since WW2 and that is to let the US defeat itself.
    - There was never a good war, or a bad peace.
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Putin is trying to talk to the anti-war and isolationist Americans. He is talking himself right into their heads so that he can do what others have successfully done since WW2 and that is to let the US defeat itself.
    We seem to do that best with NO help. The worst thing to do is give Americans a united front to gather behind, because otherwise, we'll beat each other into political dust given the opportunity.
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Putin is trying to talk to the anti-war and isolationist Americans. He is talking himself right into their heads so that he can do what others have successfully done since WW2 and that is to let the US defeat itself.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't just this past summer that rightie tighties nationwide thought Obama should be more Putin-like and were practically giving Putin verbal blow jobs regarding how fabulously masculine he is???

    Now it's somehow the anti-war folks who will be adoring Putin???? I get so confused trying to sort out the quick sand that constitutes the opinions and positions of right wingers.
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