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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    The US created instability in so many countries, not for economic reasons, if anything instability hurts our finances overall, except for a handful of defense contractors. It was because of a controlling and paranoid ideology about how to deal with extremist terrorism and religious fundamentalists. With out current increase in domestic oil/gas output, we're not even that reliant on ME reserves. Our leaders real problem with the ME is keeping Russia and China from tapping into all the energy they need from there to become even bigger global influences. It's a game of who can stay on top.




    That's because our current leaders were little kids at the height of the Cold War. We didn't play our cards well with Russia, and could've been a little more generous with financial incentives, instead of being so tight fisted.
    There would have been no Cold War had President Truman stuck with the post-War plans and deals made by the big three - Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin. But, he didn't and so we got the Cold War I.e. the permanent War economy.

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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    There would have been no Cold War had President Truman stuck with the post-War plans and deals made by the big three - Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin. But, he didn't and so we got the Cold War I.e. the permanent War economy.
    It's not about "could've, would've, should've" but about influence, power and money, and we haz it.
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It's not about "could've, would've, should've" but about influence, power and money, and we haz it.
    Yes, but mutual cooperation is better than being at each other's throats for over 70 years now. The power of reciprocity, give-and-take.

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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Yes, but mutual cooperation is better than being at each other's throats for over 70 years now. The power of reciprocity, give-and-take.
    Not happening yet in a world of 'survival of the fittest'. We are competitive by nature.
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Not happening yet in a world of 'survival of the fittest'. We are competitive by nature.
    Of course, but we can't take the whole pie for ourselves, as we don't have the money nor the resources (including manpower) to achieve such grand plans.

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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Putin must be related to this guy.



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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Of course, but we can't take the whole pie for ourselves, as we don't have the money nor the resources (including manpower) to achieve such grand plans.
    We've came awful close at one point of dominating the globe. But I see the US and Europe declining in comparison to emerging powers like China, India and South America.
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Putin accuses US of undermining global stability




    Though, I believe these accusations about America wanting to dominate geopolitical situations to our advantage, Putin and Russia are no better. What's scary is how far in a standoff, with both sides pushing for more concessions and assets, will they drive this competition?

    Between natural disasters, environmental impact, Ebola like diseases, financial instability, ISIS/terrorism and Chinese hackers how much more strife does the world really need?
    Do you think the two are comparable?

    Was it Russia or the US which backed and then immediately legitimized the usurpers in Ukraine?

    Was it Russia or US foreign policy in the ME which created the conditions and brought about the formation of ISIS?

    Was it Russia or US who created and implemented a surveillance system which has the capability to spy on virtually everyone all the time? Friends and Foes alike?

    Pitting self assertion and regional influence with global hegemony isn't really an honest comparison.
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Do you think the two are comparable?

    Was it Russia or the US which backed and then immediately legitimized the usurpers in Ukraine?

    Was it Russia or US foreign policy in the ME which created the conditions and brought about the formation of ISIS?

    Was it Russia or US who created and implemented a surveillance system which has the capability to spy on virtually everyone all the time? Friends and Foes alike?

    Pitting self assertion and regional influence with global hegemony isn't really an honest comparison.
    It was both.
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    Re: Putin accuses US of undermining global stability

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Putin accuses US of undermining global stability




    Though, I believe these accusations about America wanting to dominate geopolitical situations to our advantage, Putin and Russia are no better. What's scary is how far in a standoff, with both sides pushing for more concessions and assets, will they drive this competition?

    Between natural disasters, environmental impact, Ebola like diseases, financial instability, ISIS/terrorism and Chinese hackers how much more strife does the world really need?
    He's just trying to create pressure and uncertainty cause Russia could use the oil revenue

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