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Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi[W:480]

Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

Lets put you back on page one. You made a prediction. I then made a prediction. My prediction was based on the nonsense we hear all the times in these discussion about gun free zones. And it came true.



And what they then did was exactly what I predicted would happen.


Now what is there about that reality that seems to befuddle and confound you?



Were you operating under the delusion that you could take an event involving a gun and murders and lay down some restrictions that a gun cannot be mentioned?



Promises, promises.



Nope... did not do that.



The "real issues" being anything about a murder with a gun in a school like many other murders in schools with guns that then DOES NOT MENTION THE GUN.

Got it loud and clear.

You know I got a couple comments before I'm done (too much time on my hands at work right now).

Notice I never responded to your prediction? What should you derive from that?

I was under the impression that maybe we could get some intelligent discussion about the issue that is causing people to not be able to cope with their everyday lives. But it seems some people are so hell-bent on attacking guns that they will use any dead kid they can to score political points. As I have said before those on your side do not actually care. You would actually prefer for kids to die just so you can score political points.

You want to talk about all those gun murders where all the guns were used, but you don't seem to be catching the common link. The gun was a freaking tool. It didn't cause anything. But hey. Keep trying to avoid the cause. I know it doesn't help you like dead kids does. The gun control side is pathetic.

And just a hint because I know you won't get it: The common link is mental illness and lack of coping mechanisms.

By the way maybe you could try treating this as something other than a college debate, you know treating it like it is an actual issue that should be discussed.
 
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The NRA is responsible for gun proliferation. They've created a gun culture which has resulted in a huge supply of guns. They're cheap and easy to get because that's the way the NRA wants it.

complete crap.
 
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complete crap.

Looks like he failed Economics 101, specifically price setting in a free market.

He probably thinks that 'laissez-faire' is what happens when you are tired after visiting the local county fair.
 
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Looks like he failed Economics 101, specifically price setting in a free market.

He probably thinks that 'laissez-faire' is what happens when you are tired after visiting the local county fair.

blaming the NRA for people having guns is like blaming the ACLU for defamation or religious cults
 
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You know I got a couple comments before I'm done (too much time on my hands at work right now).

Notice I never responded to your prediction? What should you derive from that?

I was under the impression that maybe we could get some intelligent discussion about the issue that is causing people to not be able to cope with their everyday lives. But it seems some people are so hell-bent on attacking guns that they will use any dead kid they can to score political points. As I have said before those on your side do not actually care. You would actually prefer for kids to die just so you can score political points.

You want to talk about all those gun murders where all the guns were used, but you don't seem to be catching the common link. The gun was a freaking tool. It didn't cause anything. But hey. Keep trying to avoid the cause. I know it doesn't help you like dead kids does. The gun control side is pathetic.

And just a hint because I know you won't get it: The common link is mental illness and lack of coping mechanisms.

By the way maybe you could try treating this as something other than a college debate, you know treating it like it is an actual issue that should be discussed.

You and I share a very common interest as we both want the social and mental issues explored and investigated. We part ways about guns.
 
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You and I share a very common interest as we both want the social and mental issues explored and investigated. We part ways about guns.

There are 40 to 50,000,000 gunowners in America. You are welcome to try and ascribe the cause to firearms. Even though the number of people who get involved in mass shootings is equal to about .00025%.

The fact is we have laws regarding the mentally ill and children having firearms. We however I have limited understanding of what causes someone to become a mass shooter. Dragging firearms end of this discussion is stupid. It is not productive. And quite frankly it ignores the fact that we already have the laws on the books that we need.

However it doesn't matter. I know well enough that bringing firearms up is not about trying to help people who are victims of these mass shooters. It isn't about developing coping mechanisms for people who may become mass shooters themselves. It is about scoring political points against the NRA.

The short version is your side tracking this discussion by involving firearms legislation.
 
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There are 40 to 50,000,000 gunowners in America. You are welcome to try and ascribe the cause to firearms.

I never said the cause was firearms.

You are making stuff up as you go along.
 
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I never said the cause was firearms.

You are making stuff up as you go along.



The one law we need is to close the loophole and get a background check for all firearms purchases. And that has huge support from the public and NRA members also.

Dodgeball 101.
 
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Dodgeball 101.

Actually it was July of 2014.

Poll: 92 percent of gun owners support universal background checks | TheHill

Ninety-two percent of voters, including 92 percent of gun owners and 86 percent of Republicans, support background checks prior to all gun sales, according to a new poll from Quinnipiac University.

The results indicate that, while the proposed shift to universal background checks has stirred intense partisan bickering inside the Beltway, it's not nearly as controversial throughout the rest of the country.

and large support among Republicans and gun owners

The Quinnipiac poll suggests Republican leaders are at stark odds with the public on the issue. It found that voters support universal background checks by a margin of 92 to 7 percent; gun owners support the change 92 to 6 percent; and Republicans back the idea 86 to 11 percent.

The survey also suggested a reason for the disconnect between the public support and the congressional inactivity. In short, many voters simply don't equate mandatory background checks with "gun control." Indeed, only 50 percent of the same respondents said they support "stricter gun control laws," the poll found, with 47 percent opposed.
 
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You missed again - I meant you.

It was your own post that badly missed in your zeal to attack me as an enemy.
 
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It was your own post that badly missed in your zeal to attack me as an enemy.

No attack at all - just stating the truth - judicial notice.

Put your victim card back up your sleeve.
 
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Failed Econ, History, and even mathematics.


Looks like he failed Economics 101, specifically price setting in a free market.

He probably thinks that 'laissez-faire' is what happens when you are tired after visiting the local county fair.
 
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Failed Econ, History, and even mathematics.

Of Common Sense was a class, you could add that to the list.
 
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There are 40 to 50,000,000 gunowners in America. You are welcome to try and ascribe the cause to firearms. Even though the number of people who get involved in mass shootings is equal to about .00025%.

The fact is we have laws regarding the mentally ill and children having firearms. We however I have limited understanding of what causes someone to become a mass shooter. Dragging firearms end of this discussion is stupid. It is not productive. And quite frankly it ignores the fact that we already have the laws on the books that we need.

However it doesn't matter. I know well enough that bringing firearms up is not about trying to help people who are victims of these mass shooters. It isn't about developing coping mechanisms for people who may become mass shooters themselves. It is about scoring political points against the NRA.

The short version is your side tracking this discussion by involving firearms legislation.

The thread is about a "popular" 14-year old who used his father's gun to execute his best friends/cousins, and I think he may have shot them in the backs of their heads. What made him act out and take teen angst to the next level?

Police seek motive in fatal Washington state school shooting | Reuters
 
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No attack at all - just stating the truth - judicial notice.

Your post was merely another cheap shot drive by attack which had nothing to do with the discussion.

Put your victim card back up your sleeve.

You dealt the cards.
 
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I never said the cause was firearms.

You are making stuff up as you go along.

It doesn't really matter what you say. You are trying to shift the focus too firearms. If you recognize that the cause is not one thing...why insist on talking about it.
 
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It doesn't really matter what you say. You are trying to shift the focus too firearms. If you recognize that the cause is not one thing...why insist on talking about it.

There is a difference between something being THE CAUSE and examining a social problem to see if different factors may be involved as part of the reason why things happens like they do.
 
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The thread is about a "popular" 14-year old who used his father's gun to execute his best friends/cousins, and I think he may have shot them in the backs of their heads. What made him act out and take teen angst to the next level?

Police seek motive in fatal Washington state school shooting | Reuters

I know what it is about. This is my response to someone changing the topic.

I don't know what made him, but I suspect it is along the lines of having his "self image" bubble popped. Him not having any way to grasp being different and he had no real coping mechanism. They probably popped it. He probably felt victimized and couldn't hack it.

We need a real study on this stuff.
 
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Let me interrupt all the political bull**** chatter to share this terribly sad news.

One of four students injured when a freshman opened fire in a Washington high school cafeteria has died, bringing the death toll to two.
Three others remain hospitalized from the Friday shooting at Marysville-Pilchuck High School.
Gia Soriano, 14, who had been in critical condition with head injuries, succumbed to her wounds, the Providence Regional Medical Center said late Sunday night.

Washington school shooting claims another victim - CNN.com

Damn it all to hell....
 
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It's not so much apply as a fact. Many their ideas were relatively new. To consider them stagnant thinkers would be a poor reading of who they were. They even revised their first effort to give more power to the federal government. This suggests they were quite pragmatic.

They also took up the issue of an armed citizenry as the second order of business, which suggests it was a critical right they intended be preserved as a foundational aspect of the country.
 
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I buy all of my guns and ammunition to counter the kooks who believe guns are the problem and not government. I do not understand why anyone would be liberal much less very liberal. Isn't simple authoritarian statism sufficient?

You seem to be a radical. Are you a member of a "militia?"
 
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Let me interrupt all the political bull**** chatter to share this terribly sad news.

Washington school shooting claims another victim - CNN.com

Damn it all to hell....

The school district and local authorities have done a great job in controlling information/protecting privacy. Much of what they have said has been in response to the rumors flying on social media. I don't have a Facebook account myself but do have a password, so I did a bit of surfing through classmates' postings. Tremendous confusion over which girl, Zoe or Gia, had been killed outright at the school and, of course, the rage and shock you would expect. What surprised me were the number of students who responded to the predictable hateful posts about the shooter by saying that he had a family too and that Jaylen had been a good guy. I was pretty impressed.
 
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US citizens, like me, are responsible for the proliferation of gun ownership, which is a good thing.

The cost of guns is like any other commodity - the laws of supply and demand dictate the market price.

Your ignorance of guns is overshadowed by your ignorance of basic economics.

Incredible.
 
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