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Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi[W:480]

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Possible hero emerging...

Teacher tried to stop Washington state shooting

TULALIP, WASH. — A newly hired teacher confronted a gunman and was being hailed as a hero on Saturday after a deadly shooting rampage in the cafeteria of a Washington state high school.

First-year social studies teacher Megan Silberberger intervened in the attack Friday at Marysville-Pilchuck High School, teachers union president Randy Davis said.

The teacher intercepted the gunman as he paused, possibly to reload, student Erick Cervantes told KIRO-TV.

"I'm completely amazed by her actions and I feel for her," Davis told The Associated Press. "I don't know why she was in the cafeteria but I'm just grateful she was there."

The attacker killed one girl on Friday and seriously wounded four others — including two of his cousins — before he died of what police said was a self-inflicted wound.

However, it wasn't clear if the shooter committed suicide or if he accidentally shot himself in the struggle with the teacher.

A school resource officer also ran to the scene, Davis said.

Read more here: TULALIP, Wash.: Teacher tried to stop Washington state shooting | National | The Bellingham Herald
 
Re: School shooting in Maryville, Washington

Yeah I just read this! This woman probably saved some lives, shes a hero in my book.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

It makes sense Hay. Any child who escapes liberal abortion mills can look forward to spending their child life in a zone made safe for murderers.

Tell me more about the discount on pretzels.

half off on Tuesdays.

... if it does not rain.
 
Re: School shooting in Maryville, Washington

The two are inseparable. Discussing gun death without discussing the NRA isn't logical.

Only for the tunnel-visioned hack looking for an excuse to hoist his favorite soapbox over the bloody body of a child.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Yeah? Or else what tough guy? pfft...You're making yourself look silly.

(grin!)
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

It was, however, a very different war and citizen militias were much more common and certainly more needed as part of the national defense. It is largely not likely that our founding fathers would not have seen tings differently after 200 years of history. I'm not saying that this means an automatic overturning or change, but that we act as if they would have stayed stagnant, unchanged by real world changes and realities.

I recognize there are those who want to apply an "it was different then" test to the Constitution. The "Living Constitution" movement is certainly much louder today than in previous times.

What should be considered is the wisdom of history that influenced the Founding fathers, not the immediate reality of the times that existed when they took on drafting the second most important matter of business.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

BooRadley said:
It was, however, a very different war and citizen militias were much more common and certainly more needed as part of the national defense. It is largely not likely that our founding fathers would not have seen tings differently after 200 years of history. I'm not saying that this means an automatic overturning or change, but that we act as if they would have stayed stagnant, unchanged by real world changes and realities.

There is NO way you can say that with the certainty you exhibit here...It is foolish bravado.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

but that is stupid because you cannot prevent killers from getting guns. ...

The NRA is responsible for gun proliferation. They've created a gun culture which has resulted in a huge supply of guns. They're cheap and easy to get because that's the way the NRA wants it.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

Joe. You can spout this propaganda all day long. But I don't think you really understand the issue. I don't think you even want to try and discuss it and find out. Saying "guns are the issue" is like blaming the car in a DUI and it is that simple. ...

The issue isn't "that simple." No one buys a cay to drive drunk. Killing is the sole purpose of guns. Gun owners buy them because they want to kill someone.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

... In your utopia that kid still has severe emotional issues. He can still get a knife. He can still contemplate suicide and murder. He isn't STOPPED. He is still a danger to himself and others. And in your utopia nothing is done about that. Why? Because if the kid goes on a stabbing spree you will blame the knives. And then the forks. And then the this. And then that. ...

Guns are made for killing. They're made to make killing fast, safe and easy. When a disturbed person reaches the critical point, an easily available gun makes the killing much, much more possible.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

When the time calls for it, I want the means to kill any threat to my home, family or person. So what?

You're part of the problem, then. You and everyone like you buys a gun for the remote possibility you might need it someday have contributed to the creation of a huge supply of guns which makes them relatively cheap and easy to get for those who would use them inappropriately.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

The issue isn't "that simple." No one buys a cay to drive drunk. Killing is the sole purpose of guns. Gun owners buy them because they want to kill someone.

No, not at all. You are seriously wrong about that. We buy guns for hunting, target shooting, collecting, hobbies and tinkering (gunsmithing), or just because we want to.

It is no wonder you are anti-gun, as you are ignorant about them, with the exception of your fears and imagination.
 
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Did you actually read it? Definitely NOT debunked! Seems there is a difference of opinion regarding the control of other factors and the data available. Anything on Romania where the reverse happened in 1966?

That's what I thought. It's something to think about but it's certainly not conclusive.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

You're part of the problem, then. You and everyone like you buys a gun for the remote possibility you might need it someday have contributed to the creation of a huge supply of guns which makes them relatively cheap and easy to get for those who would use them inappropriately.
I buy all of my guns and ammunition to counter the kooks who believe guns are the problem and not government. I do not understand why anyone would be liberal much less very liberal. Isn't simple authoritarian statism sufficient?
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

The NRA is responsible for gun proliferation. They've created a gun culture which has resulted in a huge supply of guns. They're cheap and easy to get because that's the way the NRA wants it.

US citizens, like me, are responsible for the proliferation of gun ownership, which is a good thing.

The cost of guns is like any other commodity - the laws of supply and demand dictate the market price.

Your ignorance of guns is overshadowed by your ignorance of basic economics.
 
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No, not at all. You are seriously wrong about that. We buy guns for hunting, target shooting, collecting, hobbies and tinkering (gunsmithing), or just because we want to.

It is no wonder you are anti-gun, as you are ignorant about them, with the exception of your fears and imagination.

And for self defense, which is very important to me and my family.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

I recognize there are those who want to apply an "it was different then" test to the Constitution. The "Living Constitution" movement is certainly much louder today than in previous times.

What should be considered is the wisdom of history that influenced the Founding fathers, not the immediate reality of the times that existed when they took on drafting the second most important matter of business.

It's not so much apply as a fact. Many their ideas were relatively new. To consider them stagnant thinkers would be a poor reading of who they were. They even revised their first effort to give more power to the federal government. This suggests they were quite pragmatic.
 
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Guns are made for killing. They're made to make killing fast, safe and easy. When a disturbed person reaches the critical point, an easily available gun makes the killing much, much more possible.

Same can be said for a knife or explosive material or a club. Your obsession with the tool leads me to believe you don't actually care that someone died.

You grasp the disturbed part. Nobody is contesting that mentally ill joule by have guns. There is even a law that says this. Kids can't have them either. You don't grasp that we don't understand who is disturbed. Your obsession is nothing but a partisan hack blinder to the real issue.
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

The issue isn't "that simple." No one buys a cay to drive drunk. Killing is the sole purpose of guns. Gun owners buy them because they want to kill someone.

Guns are good tools for getting a high velocity projectile on target. They're a definite improvement over the arm and the sling so, when you want to kill something, a gun is usually a good choice.

Now, please, answer this honestly, is it always wrong to kill someone? Is it, to your thinking, ever warranted to take someone's life without trial?
 
Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

The issue isn't "that simple." No one buys a cay to drive drunk. Killing is the sole purpose of guns. Gun owners buy them because they want to kill someone.

LMAO!!! I have 3 target rifles. Not meant for killing. I have a handgun for self defense but I don't have a desire to use it. I would rather my life NOT be in jeopardy.

But hey. Maybe you can substantiate this claim? You got evidence? No. Your claim false.
 
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