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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmacq View Post
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    except for rather majorly huge problem dude
    namely...I own three
    why would you assume I want my possession of said firearms banned?
    .
    time to give your head a shake
    and listen for the rattle
    where do you get the idea that gun banners don't own guns. French Knights killed any peasant who owned a crossbow
    Samurai murdered any commoner caught with a sword
    Jay Rockefeller had an AR 15 when he voted to ban them
    the Klan passed laws keeping freed blacks from owning firearms
    the Sullivan Act was designed to disarm rival ethnic groups


    You have never said what kind so I might inquire as to them to see if you are truthful



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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    mine is truthful, yours is not. I have never heard of gun monthly or a centerfold thereof
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

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    nice diversion. do you support registration Haymarket?



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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    nice diversion. do you support registration Haymarket?
    If it was done right - with proper protections - it could have the potential to be a valuable tool for law enforcement.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If it was done right - with proper protections - it could have the potential to be a valuable tool for law enforcement.
    it does nothing for public safety and there is no evidence of it having any value. that is objective evidence rather than the blatherings of police officers who are toeing the company line

    we do know that registration costs gun owners money

    it costs taxpayers

    and it has been used for confiscation

    and it cannot be enforced due to fifth amendment issues on those who are not allowed to own guns

    and it is not constitutionally permitted of the federal government



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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I cannot help what you fail to understand as to state constitutions.

    yes it could happen. but now that the Supreme court has extended the 2A to states it cannot.

    I think you are not able to understand what the constitution really says or how to analyze it. none of you gun banners or gun restrictionists have ever made a rational argument that the federal government was actually delegated a power to control firearms
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    holy crap dude
    are you really stuck on stupid?
    . you have lawmakers and educated people trying to get it therough your noggin
    but you still resort to "they are just stupid people...cause I know best"
    .
    allw me to put your words in correct form
    you
    want it a certain way
    and you get confused and befuddled when others don't think your way
    you fele someones trying to take something away from you that you really never owned in the first place
    you misconstrue even simple English
    "The Second Amendment was based partially on the right to keep and bear arms in English common-law and was influenced by the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Sir William Blackstone described this right as an auxiliary right, supporting the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state.[8]

    In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that, "The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence" and limited the applicability of the Second Amendment to the federal government.[9] In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a “reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”.[
    ...
    yeah yeah...we know
    they are wrong YOU are right
    .
    so when you finally get that ten million man(woman and kiddies ...dogs and cats) army of yours on the same page
    have you ever stopped to consider how many your going up against?
    that have the very same weapons as you?
    simple math time
    theres 300 mill yanks of which its figured 80 % own firearms
    and your army wishing to wage insurrection is only ten mill...so just how good is your math?
    .
    as another poster posted
    I hope you have a plan "B"
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmacq View Post
    '
    holy crap dude
    are you really stuck on stupid?
    . you have lawmakers and educated people trying to get it therough your noggin
    but you still resort to "they are just stupid people...cause I know best"
    .
    allw me to put your words in correct form
    you
    want it a certain way
    and you get confused and befuddled when others don't think your way
    you fele someones trying to take something away from you that you really never owned in the first place
    you misconstrue even simple English
    "The Second Amendment was based partially on the right to keep and bear arms in English common-law and was influenced by the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Sir William Blackstone described this right as an auxiliary right, supporting the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state.[8]

    In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that, "The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence" and limited the applicability of the Second Amendment to the federal government.[9] In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a “reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”.[
    ...
    yeah yeah...we know
    they are wrong YOU are right
    .
    so when you finally get that ten million man(woman and kiddies ...dogs and cats) army of yours on the same page
    have you ever stopped to consider how many your going up against?
    that have the very same weapons as you?
    simple math time
    theres 300 mill yanks of which its figured 80 % own firearms
    and your army wishing to wage insurrection is only ten mill...so just how good is your math?
    .
    as another poster posted
    I hope you have a plan "B"
    ♫ Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton, Old times there are not forgotten,♫
    you apparently cannot remember what I said about cruikshank

    the court said the right recognized was a PRE EXISTING RIGHT that was not CREATED By the 2A but merely recognized by it

    I have no idea what the rest of your blather is about but it appears to be as erroneous as your claims about my views on Cruikshank



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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmacq View Post
    '
    holy crap dude
    are you really stuck on stupid?
    . you have lawmakers and educated people trying to get it therough your noggin
    but you still resort to "they are just stupid people...cause I know best"
    .
    allw me to put your words in correct form
    you
    want it a certain way
    and you get confused and befuddled when others don't think your way
    you fele someones trying to take something away from you that you really never owned in the first place
    you misconstrue even simple English
    "The Second Amendment was based partially on the right to keep and bear arms in English common-law and was influenced by the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Sir William Blackstone described this right as an auxiliary right, supporting the natural rights of self-defense, resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state.[8]

    In United States v. Cruikshank (1876), the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that, "The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence" and limited the applicability of the Second Amendment to the federal government.[9] In United States v. Miller (1939), the Supreme Court ruled that the federal government and the states could limit any weapon types not having a “reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia”.[
    ...
    yeah yeah...we know
    they are wrong YOU are right
    .
    so when you finally get that ten million man(woman and kiddies ...dogs and cats) army of yours on the same page
    have you ever stopped to consider how many your going up against?
    that have the very same weapons as you?
    simple math time
    theres 300 mill yanks of which its figured 80 % own firearms
    and your army wishing to wage insurrection is only ten mill...so just how good is your math?
    .
    as another poster posted
    I hope you have a plan "B"
    ♫ Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton, Old times there are not forgotten,♫
    If you want to include yourself with the "educated people", then you really should take a course in how to write simple prose, including, but not limited to, punctuation, sentence structure, and spelling.

    You did bring up an interesting court case. I'd think that DC vs Heller would supersede it, but let's hear what Turtledude has to say about the case of US vs. Cruikshank.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    States can not ban them, as per the Supreme Court (DC vs Heller) but they can regulate them.
    Yeah, I started with regulation and it morphed. My bad.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    it does nothing for public safety and there is no evidence of it having any value. that is objective evidence rather than the blatherings of police officers who are toeing the company line

    we do know that registration costs gun owners money

    it costs taxpayers

    and it has been used for confiscation

    and it cannot be enforced due to fifth amendment issues on those who are not allowed to own guns

    and it is not constitutionally permitted of the federal government
    You are talking through your hat. Come back and report on the results when we have a national system of registration combined with background checks on all weapons purchases. Until then - its you who are toeing the company line of the NRA and the gun lobby.
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