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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmacq View Post
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    "3. Reeducation: Convicted offenders found to be in possession of a scheduled firearm, shall be transported to a reeducation camp for instruction in the community's expectations.
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    "Convicted offenders "
    nothing anti freedom in that
    unless you figure your prisons for the convicted are also along the same lines
    Dude. Listen to the wording. And then consider the REASON these people are being sent to "reeducation" camps. Because they possessed something that is likely to be owned by law abiding citizens now. Something that is used in almost 0 crimes.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    It's only impractical to those who want to suggest it.

    To add. You think the Founding Fathers would take up the matter of protecting the right to voice an opinion, but eliminate the means to defend it because weapons and things have advanced so much? That absurd.
    Like I said, you better have a plan B. Not much you can do dead. yes, we don't have access to fighter jets, nukes, and like. You can't fight government this way. And you don't have millions behind you for the faux tyranny often presented on these pages.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Dude. Listen to the wording. And then consider the REASON these people are being sent to "reeducation" camps. Because they possessed something that is likely to be owned by law abiding citizens now. Something that is used in almost 0 crimes.
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    they would be sent 'cause they are convicted criminals
    you'll get no agreement from me that you have every right to possess an illegal scheduled firearm
    we up here have different classes of weapon as well and for good reason
    ya don't need a fully automatic to go hunt bambi
    the only reason one might feel they need such an animal is for the purposes of insurrection
    do you not find it terribly ominous that other than war torn countries Americas firearm related deaths
    is one of the highest?...and only going higher
    and why?
    cause you refuse the simple task of registering?
    that you need that howitzer for smokey the bears cousin?
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    I thought you guys were suppose to be civilised?

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Like I said, you better have a plan B. Not much you can do dead. yes, we don't have access to fighter jets, nukes, and like. You can't fight government this way. And you don't have millions behind you for the faux tyranny often presented on these pages.
    Right. We just have people who want to change Constitutional protections because "times have changed". Rather interesting how clairvoyant the Founding Fathers were. In fact, one might believe they actually anticipated such people might come along, and insured there was a way to protect the country from them.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Right. We just have people who want to change Constitutional protections because "times have changed". Rather interesting how clairvoyant the Founding Fathers were.
    Adjust maybe to reflect the real world, maybe. And that's only a maybe. But let's not pretend that the world is the same. And let's not pretend that anyone, even the founding fathers, wouldn't change as times change.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Adjust maybe to reflect the real world, maybe. And that's only a maybe. But let's not pretend that the world is the same. And let's not pretend that anyone, even the founding fathers, wouldn't change as times change.
    There is no question the Founding Fathers anticipated change, for they made provision to address it. However, there is little doubt the Founding Fathers were suspect of the lure of power and control, and intended to provide the means to speak out against it, and the means to defend against it.

    What you write of, the overwhelming power of government, so no reason to have a means to defend against it, is the very same attitude the British had when the Founding Fathers risked all to secure our future. The Constitution doesn't have means tests.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmacq View Post
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    they would be sent 'cause they are convicted criminals
    you'll get no agreement from me that you have every right to possess an illegal scheduled firearm
    The issue is that this little group he is proposing would be able to make scheduled firearms ones that we Americans already own. Things that represent almost 0 crime. And then weapons that I use to kill Bambi or Daffy Duck (I'm a duck and turkey hunter) or porky.

    we up here have different classes of weapon as well and for good reason
    ya don't need a fully automatic to go hunt bambi
    The debate isn't about need. Additionally hunting is not the only reason to own a firearm. Self defense, competitive, and trails.

    the only reason one might feel they need such an animal is for the purposes of insurrection
    do you not find it terribly ominous that other than war torn countries Americas firearm related deaths
    is one of the highest?...
    No. I find it ominous that nations who banned firearms banned tasers as pepper spray. I'm also not concerned with firearms death. Murder...now that is different. But just looking at guns as if they are the only way to kill someone? That is silly.

    and only going higher
    and why?
    It is NOT going higher. It is dropping. Consistently.

    cause you refuse the simple task of registering?
    We refuse registries because they do not target criminals. They target lawful owners. Besides...my guns are unregistered and they don't commit crimes. Registries don't impact crime rates.

    that you need that howitzer for smokey the bears cousin?
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    I thought you guys were suppose to be civilised?
    I am civilized. I believe law abiding citizens have a right to protect themselves to whatever comfort level they have:. That is why I also hate moronic laws that ban tasers and pepper spray too. But those "civilized" European nations don't believe that. And I don't know about Canada.

    I also know that there is nothing uncivilized about a gun obi wan. I'm a classy dude.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    There is no question the Founding Fathers anticipated change, for they made provision to address it. However, there is little doubt the Founding Fathers were suspect of the lure of power and control, and intended to provide the means to speak out against it, and the means to defend against it.

    What you write of, the overwhelming power of government, so no reason to have a means to defend against it, is the very same attitude the British had when the Founding Fathers risked all to secure our future. The Constitution doesn't have means tests.
    Still be suspect, not delusional mind you, but suspect. I merely say you need to plan effectively and not based on myth.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Still be suspect, not delusional mind you, but suspect. I merely say you need to plan effectively and not based on myth.
    Again, that's not the point. Perhaps the "living Constitution" believers should attempt to understand that.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmacq View Post
    m1 a1
    I'm talking about the tank
    (thanx for the chuckle)
    tanks aren't guns so your claim didn't make sense unless applied to this

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