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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Has human nature changed?Have men become angels? The world of men (and women) has not changed. There are tyrants today just as there were tyrants then. There are wannabe tyrants now just as there were then. Fortunately there remain a small number of patriots today just as then to fight the wannabe tyrants and the rest of the authoritarian statists. You, and people like you, who believe as you believe, are clear examples of how nothing has changed. The patriots must be armed as long as the authoritarian statists and fellow travelers are with us.
    No, but the way things work has. And threats have. How things can be handled has. Today, you won't handle a tyrant that way. And too many see everything as tyrannical when it isn't. And like I said, you better have a plan B.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This is absolutely not true. A few tens of millions of armed citizens can utterly destroy the military.
    Yes it is and no you can't. You better have a plan B.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    I don't think they would shun people defending themselves anywhere in the nation though. They didn't have police forces. Hell Alexander Hamilton went heels with Aaron burr. Clearly the founders were not reticent of firearm.
    That's the way it was done then. It's not done that way any more. So, we can't assume that had they lived a couple of centuries they would not have changed with the times. Just as people who lived today would have changed to fit those times. We're not lock into anything with no ability to change. In fact, change is a certainty for all but the dead.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm a practical fellow. It is the point.
    I have no doubt, to you, it is. To the Founding Fathers and the Constitution, it isn't.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I have no doubt, to you, it is. To the Founding Fathers and the Constitution, it isn't.
    Sure. they were practical fellows as well, and proven willing to change the document. Remember the Constitution was the second effort. They proved themselves adaptable to changing circumstance and needs.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sure. they were practical fellows as well, and proven willing to change the document. Remember the Constitution was the second effort. They proved themselves adaptable to changing circumstance and needs.
    But the right to bear arms was so critical, after addressing the right to voice an opinion, they secured the method to defend it. Quite practical, as you suggested.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post

    Reeducation CAMPS!!!!??!!!! You might as well be creating internment camps. Seriously? Did you even read this anti freedom bill?
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    "3. Reeducation: Convicted offenders found to be in possession of a scheduled firearm, shall be transported to a reeducation camp for instruction in the community's expectations.
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    "Convicted offenders "
    nothing anti freedom in that
    unless you figure your prisons for the convicted are also along the same lines

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    But the right to bear arms was so critical, after addressing the right to voice an opinion, they secured the method to defend it. Quite practical, as you suggested.
    Was is the key word. There is no argument about "then" at all. But weapons and things have advanced so much, that what you suggest is impractical today. what was practical then isn't now. And to think that the founding fathers would have been deft, dumb and blind I find laughable. They would change as anyone would. Just as we would have to change to live then.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmacq View Post
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    am I?
    again what is the purpose of having a "mean and nasty gun" for hunting bambi?
    or that fact why full auto?
    has bambi learned to shoot back?
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    mean and nasty belongs in wars...are you planning your own personal one soon?
    do you need "mean and nasty" to get the point across "please stay out of my house"?
    one does not use a sledge hammer to drive a finishing nail
    Because they scare you.

    More sorrow for you - I don't hunt, and have salt blocks out for the deer on our 110 acres.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Was is the key word. There is no argument about "then" at all. But weapons and things have advanced so much, that what you suggest is impractical today. what was practical then isn't now. And to think that the founding fathers would have been deft, dumb and blind I find laughable. They would change as anyone would. Just as we would have to change to live then.
    It's only impractical to those who want to suggest it.

    To add. You think the Founding Fathers would take up the matter of protecting the right to voice an opinion, but eliminate the means to defend it because weapons and things have advanced so much? That absurd.
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