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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Indeed, but it describes the level of insanity and that in itself can be persuasive. It might be the fact that moves the People to action.

    Yep, a majority of those gun owners will surely demand that the gov't make them into instant criminals for their gun ownership.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Waiting for your to inform us as to what pieces of gun control can stop mass shootings???

    Here's a draft of legislation which would go a long way to stop the madness:

    General Retrieval And Ban

    Section 1 - Responsibility

    1. Responsibility for enforcing the General Retrieval and Ban shall be vested in the National Firearms Retrieval Service. NFRS shall be empowered to use whatever means generally are available to law enforcement agencies.

    2. The General Retrieval and Ban permits retrieval and banning of firearms without the requirement they be covered specifically by legislation. Firearms covered by GRAB shall be included at the discretion the Director of the National Firearms Retrieval Service who shall be required to hold hearings and consult with interested parties before adding any firearm to the Schedule of Banned Firearms. The President of the United States shall approve implementation of Retrieval for any firearm added to the Schedule of Banned Firearms.

    Section 2 - Process

    1. Retrieval: Within 30 days of implementation, scheduled firearms in private possession shall be delivered to a law enforcement agency.

    2. Prosecution: Persons found to be in possession of a scheduled firearm after the expiration of the 30 day Retrieval period will be guilty of a Class A felony and shall be prosecuted.

    3. Reeducation: Convicted offenders found to be in possession of a scheduled firearm, shall be transported to a reeducation camp for instruction in the community's expectations.

    4. Transition: Persons found to be in possession of a scheduled firearm after reeducation shall be transitioned to a harmless condition.

    Section 3 - Financing.

    1. Financing for GRAB and related agencies and their operations shall be provided by taxes on firearms and operations.

    2. Taxes on firearms shall include but not necessarily be limited to an excise tax and an annual property tax.

    3. Taxes on ammunition shall include an excise tax.

    4. Any tax levied by GRAB shall not preclude any tax levied by a state or local jurisdiction.

    Section 4. - Judicial Review and Severability

    1. The GRAB shall not be subject to judicial review.

    2. Should any part of the GRAB be determined to be unlawful or in conflict with another law, the discrepancy shall not affect any other part of GRAB.

    Section 5. - Registry

    1. The Director of the National Firearms Retrieval Service shall maintain a registry of all firearms within the national borders.

    2. The Director shall record all pertinent information related to each firearm. The information recorded shall included but not necessarily be limited to the serial number of the fireman, the description of the firearm, name and address of the possessor and owner if different. The Director is empowered to collect any other information which may be pertinent to retrieving the firearm should it be added to the Schedule of Banned Firearms.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmacq View Post
    .
    they know what vehicle you own and use
    what makes a firearm so different?
    after all its only a tool
    The U.S. constitution. There is no constitutional right of the people to keep and drive cars thus the gov't is free to place all manner of "reasonable restrictions" on that state issued privilege. Can you name anything "registered" by the gov't that is not taxed or subjected to a "user fee"?
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    many of those who CURRENTLY claim they only want "reasonable controls"

    anyone who supports assault weapon (Whatever those are) bans

    anyone who supports "magazine limits"

    anyone who supports the "Hughes Amendment"
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    so basically anyone with a bit of common sense?
    if you had a chance for an m1a1 you'd jump at the chance?
    would you really need one to go hunt bambi?
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    why are you so bloody paranoid?

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmacq View Post
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    so basically anyone with a bit of common sense?
    if you had a chance for an m1a1 you'd jump at the chance?
    would you really need one to go hunt bambi?
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    why are you so bloody paranoid?
    see you proved my point and you probably are unable to understand why

    I own a MIAI-and I didn't buy it for deer hunting



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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The U.S. constitution. There is no constitutional right of the people to keep and drive cars thus the gov't is free to place all manner of "reasonable restrictions" on that state issued privilege. Can you name anything "registered" by the gov't that is not taxed or subjected to a "user fee"?
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    so once again its a "whats it going to cost me" thing

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmacq View Post
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    so once again its a "whats it going to cost me" thing
    Yep, much like the opposition to strict voter state issued. photo ID laws.

    When a right gets converted to a more costly privilege then there will be some that will object.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    see post 383. the federal government does not have the proper power to require me, a private seller who is limited to intra-state sales to go through the hassle of finding some dealer to perform a background check of someone I way to sell a gun to
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    so you should be allowed to sell to whomever you choose
    and screw the general population if it happens to fall into the "wrong" hands
    the gang banger out for payback
    the psychotic wanting to do in your next prez
    or the confused youth bent on payback for deemed wrongs (topic of this thread)
    so long as it doesn't inconvenience you
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    ya know...registration/background checks would (while not being all that strenuous) alleviate a lot of the problems youre having down there
    but I get it
    that's their responsibility

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and NEVER PROPERLY gave the federal government any power to regulate arms.
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    "a well REGULATED militia..."
    ...rather intellectually lazy and silly wouldn't you say?

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    Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Here's a draft of legislation which would go a long way to stop the madness:
    Not subject to judicial review. So not only are you proposing something wholly unconstitutional, but also that the court can't review it??? Dear lord. This is hilarious. And if it is doing something illegal you can't shut it down...only the part that did the illegal thing.

    Reeducation CAMPS!!!!??!!!! You might as well be creating internment camps. Seriously? Did you even read this anti freedom bill?
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