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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Do you understand "marginality?"
    In it's relation to statistics? Yes. And?
    That doesn't change the fact that the absence of guns won't change the actual problem- the people. If I really want to kill someone, and I have no access to a gun, do you really think I'm not innovative enough to accomplish my goal?
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    The NRA holds the criminal to blame. ...
    Of course they do. They represent the gun industry.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    In it's relation to statistics? Yes. And?

    That doesn't change the fact that the absence of guns won't change the actual problem- the people. If I really want to kill someone, and I have no access to a gun, do you really think I'm not innovative enough to accomplish my goal?
    At the margin, some will not kill because they do not a suitable means. Guns provide them the means. They won't have to get close enough to use a knife or club and won't have to be clever enough to use a bomb or poison.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Despite all the gun cult mythology about defensive gun uses, guns do more harm than good. Severely restricting possession would be a net benefit to the community.
    That would require constitutional amendment and is very unlikely to happen. Rather than dream of gun control we should concentrate on control of criminals and the criminally insane. The only positive thing about suicidal nuts is that they only strike once. As far as guns doing more harm than good - how do you explain more guns yet lower gun crime? Where I live (rural Texas) nearly every home has at least one gun and likely the average is more than one gun per home. The violent crime rate in Uhland, Texas (population 1041) is under 4 per year.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    Of course they do. They represent the gun industry.
    Clearly you are fine with being an unarmed victim. I am not.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    I'm trying to show you the error of your paradigm. You're looking at your situation as if the only which would change is the gun possession. Had we banned personal gun possession years ago, you would be living in a different situation and very well might not need a gun.
    Wow, talk about a HUGE what if. I will gladly take my semi dangerous freedom over some promise of some un attainable utopia.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, for defense of the country. The world with different then and an armed citizen militia was necessary. So, no, as things have changed we have no reason to believe they wouldn't have changed as well.
    Has human nature changed?Have men become angels? The world of men (and women) has not changed. There are tyrants today just as there were tyrants then. There are wannabe tyrants now just as there were then. Fortunately there remain a small number of patriots today just as then to fight the wannabe tyrants and the rest of the authoritarian statists. You, and people like you, who believe as you believe, are clear examples of how nothing has changed. The patriots must be armed as long as the authoritarian statists and fellow travelers are with us.
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    Re: School shooting in Maryville, Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by mrmacq View Post
    no no
    not read about
    I have read some...
    "but I have read some hey zeus followers chanting loudly at glassing all those "ragheads"
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    these are self confessed hey zeus followers posting to discussion sites
    (they also tend to think they're a tad holier than thou " types)
    "Some" or "about"--what difference does it make? Can you provide links and support your claim, or not?

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Yes. The world is different. Invasion isn't as much of a threat as someone breaking into my home or robbing me in the street. So my rights should reflect that...people deserve the right to defend themselves.
    We do not deserve the right. We have the right. The state may choose to stop defending my rights. But they cannot take my rights away.

    At some point this will be decided by the force of arms.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    That's the problem. At the margin, gun are the difference between life or death.
    Imagine that. We almost agree. I am delighted that you will choose death over life. I will remain armed and choose life.

    I hope no one is depending on you.

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