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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    I blame the parents for his actions, in addition to him.

    The lack of discipline, lack of taught morals and social obligations, and the lack of teaching kids right and wrong is a serious problem.

    Children are a primarily function of their environment - if their parents are not involved, we get crap like this.
    It's not always possible for parents to be involved enough. Teens have a long history of doing stuff outside the watchful eye of their parents and generally have a life outside that of their immediate family. They're experimenting with all kinds of stuff that they don't want parental feedback on and unless you lock your kid in the basement there will be some stuff that you just never know about no matter how good a parent you are. Add in all the social media stuff we have today and the kids have a whole lot more opportunities to make bad decisions than we did before all this gadgetry became available.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I have two daughters, one in her final year of college, the other a senior in high school (Not all that far from Marysville actually). Like you, it takes my breath away like a knee to the groin when I hear these innocent young kids are dying in school. Where it's supposed to be safe.

    Those parents lost their child and their lives, and those of their entire families are ruined. For what?

    every parent who reads these stories grimaces with the thought "thank god it wasnt my child"

    that is natural....

    but it almost seems like people want to put the blame somewhere......

    of course we can blame the shooter.....he was the one that killed the kids

    what about his parents? could they have done more?

    would you know if your child was having these thoughts?

    is it the world we are raising them in? the violence that surrounds them? the other stories of mass shootings that spur others?

    i think we have always had people on the "edge".......

    maybe we identified them better before, because parents werent so busy, and they interacted more back then

    i dont have the answers....just lots of questions like a lot of you

    but i know that it isnt going to stop......especially with the amount of media coverage every one of these gets.....
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It's not always possible for parents to be involved enough. Teens have a long history of doing stuff outside the watchful eye of their parents and generally have a life outside that of their immediate family. They're experimenting with all kinds of stuff that they don't want parental feedback on and unless you lock your kid in the basement there will be some stuff that you just never know about no matter how good a parent you are. Add in all the social media stuff we have today and the kids have a whole lot more opportunities to make bad decisions than we did before all this gadgetry became available.
    I know, but I know my kid's hearts very well, and we talk quite a bit about everything.

    We are far from perfect parents, but we are involved in discussing with them what they think, feel, their opinions, their beliefs, and their fears.

    We also incorporate discussions about incidents like this one, and use them to reinforce what is right and wrong.

    They both know how much they are loved, and how important their lives and actions are to themselves, our family, and society.

    Their biggest obstacle that I see is peer pressure from other kids.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    It is always "unexpected." The reality is that no sane person does this. I just wonder why kids are resorting to these extreme actions over petty BS? I noticed some kids are reacting more and more unreasonably to breakups. I wonder if it is an entitled attitude to some degree?

    I mean kids think they deserve a relationship. There is the "friend zone" mentality too. It seems kids today aren't learning coping mechanisms like they used too.
    A very good post worth repeating.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It's not always possible for parents to be involved enough. Teens have a long history of doing stuff outside the watchful eye of their parents and generally have a life outside that of their immediate family. They're experimenting with all kinds of stuff that they don't want parental feedback on and unless you lock your kid in the basement there will be some stuff that you just never know about no matter how good a parent you are. Add in all the social media stuff we have today and the kids have a whole lot more opportunities to make bad decisions than we did before all this gadgetry became available.
    Greeting, Lutherf.

    When I think back, I'm actually amazed that so many of us survived! Meeting places changed, but the kids from all the various high schools went swimming at night in a dangerous abandoned sand and gravel pit that was God knows how deep, but was reputed to have bulldozers in there somewhere. I'm certain my parents didn't know - I sure didn't tell them! I try not to think about what my kids might have been doing at the same age - I didn't ask, and they didn't volunteer. Maybe one day I'll hear things while we're drinking enough margaritas, but who knows? At least we weren't out destroying other people's property, though, like so many seem to find fun doing these days! We knew better than that......

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greeting, Lutherf.

    When I think back, I'm actually amazed that so many of us survived! Meeting places changed, but the kids from all the various high schools went swimming at night in a dangerous abandoned sand and gravel pit that was God knows how deep, but was reputed to have bulldozers in there somewhere. I'm certain my parents didn't know - I sure didn't tell them! I try not to think about what my kids might have been doing at the same age - I didn't ask, and they didn't volunteer. Maybe one day I'll hear things while we're drinking enough margaritas, but who knows? At least we weren't out destroying other people's property, though, like so many seem to find fun doing these days! We knew better than that......
    I'm with you on that, Mrs. P, but there's a difference today. Back when we were doing that crap we were doing it face to face and the consequences of being an idiot were both tangible and immediate. Today the kids are doing stuff through social media and they can filter the immediate consequences to whatever they want. The level of verbal cruelty is also a lot higher because the risk of someone smacking you in the kisser for being a jerk just isn't there with electronic communication. I firmly believe that social media, especially for vulnerable teens, tends to magnify the emotional issues that all kids deal with.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This is a common anti gun meme that is so fundamentally wrong in its thinking that one barely knows where to start...But I see you as a reasonably educated man Boo, if not exasperating in the concept of being able to understand that which disagrees with your own world view in terms of ideology, or ability to open your mind to the concept that your ideology may be reflexively wrong on anything. In any case, even though you will probably dismiss this, I would like you to consider, if you can this quote, and tell me why YOU, should have the hubris to tell ME that I don't posses the right to self defense with the legal weapon of MY choice...

    "The underpinnings of the classical liberal belief in an armed people are obscure to us because we are not accustomed to thinking about political issues in criminological terms. But the classical liberal worldview was criminological, for lack of a better word. It held that good citizens must always be prepared to defend themselves and their society against criminal usurpation - a characterization no less applicable to tyrannical ministers or pillaging foreign or domestic soldiery (who were, in point of fact, largely composed of criminals inducted from gaols [9] ) than to apolitical outlaws.

    To natural law philosophers, self-defense was "the primary law of nature", the primary reason for man entering society. [10] Indeed, it was viewed as not just a right but a positive duty: God gives Man both life and the means to defend it; the refusal to do so reviles God's gift; in effect it is a Judeo- Christian form of hubris. Indicative of the intellectual gulf between that era and our own is that Montesquieu could rhetorically ask a question that today might be seriously posed, "Who does not see that self-protection is a duty superior to every precept?" [11]"

    https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/k...rotection.html
    Thanks for the laugh J. But I'm not anti gun and don't oppose self defense. I object to the belief that the founding fathers would have been stagnant. They too would have changed and reconsidered. How they would have eventually fell on the issue is hard to say. Because even protection is different today than it was then.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Yes. The world is different. Invasion isn't as much of a threat as someone breaking into my home or robbing me in the street. So my rights should reflect that...people deserve the right to defend themselves.
    And I don't oppose you having a gun and for you to defend yourself. But how this is done and where the lines are might well be seen differently by the founding fathers than they saw it then.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Not only defense of the country, but defense from the country. As the saying goes, the more things change, the more they stay the same. They saw the government as a solution, and as a problem.
    Well, your gun won't do that. You're out gunned and out manned. You better have a plan B.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Well, your gun won't do that. You're out gunned and out manned. You better have a plan B.
    Regardless, that is not the point.

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