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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, for defense of the country. The world with different then and an armed citizen militia was necessary. So, no, as things have changed we have no reason to believe they wouldn't have changed as well.
    Yes. The world is different. Invasion isn't as much of a threat as someone breaking into my home or robbing me in the street. So my rights should reflect that...people deserve the right to defend themselves.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    That's the problem. At the margin, gun are the difference between life or death.
    So, since you blew off the question part of my posts I have to assume that you do, in fact, believe that there are times where shooting someone is a good idea but just don't want to come out and say that.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    That's the problem. At the margin, gun are the difference between life or death.
    Right.

    And sometimes there's an asshole out there that just needs shooting.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, for defense of the country. The world with different then and an armed citizen militia was necessary. So, no, as things have changed we have no reason to believe they wouldn't have changed as well.
    Not only defense of the country, but defense from the country. As the saying goes, the more things change, the more they stay the same. They saw the government as a solution, and as a problem.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Saw that on the news this morning. I have a 14 year old child myself. I simply can't imagine sending your 14 year old off to school and having her not come home because some maniacal teenager went off the rails. She was in school, not drinking at a party or wandering the streets alone at midnight. She was in school.

    Terrible, horrible tragedy. My heart absolutely breaks for her family.
    I have two daughters, one in her final year of college, the other a senior in high school (Not all that far from Marysville actually). Like you, it takes my breath away like a knee to the groin when I hear these innocent young kids are dying in school. Where it's supposed to be safe.

    Those parents lost their child and their lives, and those of their entire families are ruined. For what?
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I have two daughters, one in her final year of college, the other a senior in high school (Not all that far from Marysville actually). Like you, it takes my breath away like a knee to the groin when I hear these innocent young kids are dying in school. Where it's supposed to be safe.

    Those parents lost their child and their lives, and those of their entire families are ruined. For what?
    That's the horrible thing. For what? Absolutely no reason.

    What's really scary is how seemingly normal this kid was. He wasn't an outcast, a loner, a kid with issues, a kid who's been seeing doctors all his life....just a normal 14 year old. Makes me shudder.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's the horrible thing. For what? Absolutely no reason.

    What's really scary is how seemingly normal this kid was. He wasn't an outcast, a loner, a kid with issues, a kid who's been seeing doctors all his life....just a normal 14 year old. Makes me shudder.
    From what I can gather, it sounds like it was a combination of things. I believe one of the boys he shot was dating the girl he broke up with. The boy was his cousin no less. The girl was the first of two that died.

    I can't have her, you can't have her, you are no longer my "brother" kind of thing.

    Speculation is all that is.

    But yeah, it is scary. And so ****ing sad. I don't know how those kids can walk into that cafeteria ever again. And the teacher who ran toward the gunfire. Wow, what a brave woman. My hat is off to her. But she has to be traumatized. To see that happen in front of you?

    Wow. How do you go back to work?
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    From what I can gather, it sounds like it was a combination of things. I believe one of the boys he shot was dating the girl he broke up with. The boy was his cousin no less. The girl was the first of two that died.

    I can't have her, you can't have her, you are no longer my "brother" kind of thing.

    Speculation is all that is.

    But yeah, it is scary. And so ****ing sad. I don't know how those kids can walk into that cafeteria ever again. And the teacher who ran toward the gunfire. Wow, what a brave woman. My hat is off to her. But she has to be traumatized. To see that happen in front of you?

    Wow. How do you go back to work?
    I don't think I could go back to work, and I'll tell you what - if I was a parent who had this happen in her kids school, I'm not sure that I wouldn't NOT consider home schooling, which is something I generally oppose for a lot of reasons.

    The trauma for the kids, too. Talk about years of therapy and their hearts stopping the first time someone drops his tray in the cafeteria and they hear a pop.

    It's hard to imagine someone at 14 being that devastated over the loss of a girl that he does this. And not that it would have been any better, but seriously...couldn't he have just gone to his cousin's house and not done this at school (and again, not suggesting this would have been a good idea, but it would have been a tiny bit more understandable).
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I don't think I could go back to work, and I'll tell you what - if I was a parent who had this happen in her kids school, I'm not sure that I wouldn't NOT consider home schooling, which is something I generally oppose for a lot of reasons.

    The trauma for the kids, too. Talk about years of therapy and their hearts stopping the first time someone drops his tray in the cafeteria and they hear a pop.

    It's hard to imagine someone at 14 being that devastated over the loss of a girl that he does this. And not that it would have been any better, but seriously...couldn't he have just gone to his cousin's house and not done this at school (and again, not suggesting this would have been a good idea, but it would have been a tiny bit more understandable).
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I don't think I could go back to work, and I'll tell you what - if I was a parent who had this happen in her kids school, I'm not sure that I wouldn't NOT consider home schooling, which is something I generally oppose for a lot of reasons.

    The trauma for the kids, too. Talk about years of therapy and their hearts stopping the first time someone drops his tray in the cafeteria and they hear a pop.

    It's hard to imagine someone at 14 being that devastated over the loss of a girl that he does this. And not that it would have been any better, but seriously...couldn't he have just gone to his cousin's house and not done this at school (and again, not suggesting this would have been a good idea, but it would have been a tiny bit more understandable).
    I blame the parents for his actions, in addition to him.

    The lack of discipline, lack of taught morals and social obligations, and the lack of teaching kids right and wrong is a serious problem.

    Children are a primarily function of their environment - if their parents are not involved, we get crap like this.
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