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    Re: School shooting in Maryville, Washington

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    No it doesn't. You just want that to be so. Freakonomics » Abortion and crime: who should you believe?
    Yes it does. It ignores such things as under-reporting of crimes, which is prevalent in Baltimore, for example. It ignores the impact of welfare, economy, and education. Changing political structures...like in Romania. Changes in funding of police forces and anti-crime programs and gang units. Crime is a multi factor symptom...trying to correlate to a single phenomena is rediculous. Never mind the fact that the methodology was significantly flawed to begin with.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What I wanted to do was match your prediction with one of my own. And it was right on the money. And that is what irritates you so much.
    Nothing I have said is about gun free zones. You are the only one in our conversation talking about them. I can't control what other people do.

    But you got upset when I told you this wasn't a gun issue:

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    "LET'S TRY NOT TO EVEN BRING THAT UP" !!!!!!!!!

    Amazing!!!! And a white elephant in the room should just be ignored also and it will soon never have been there. Totally amazing.

    A story about another school shooting where innocent kids are wounded and die and we are all suppose to pretend we are the three monkey statues?

    Truly amazing!!!!!!!


    But it inevitably seems to get there jut the same in these discussions. And that is what my comment attempted to expose and another poster willingly supplied the proof.

    I really do not know what you are so angry about? The body count was very small and it would take a Sandy Hook type event ever month for at least a year - maybe even two - for the sheer political power of the NRA to be neutralized.

    So rest easy.
    This ISNT ABOUT THE NRA!!! I am not discussing this like it is a gun topic. That is you, dancing away on the graves of the dead.

    I am done talking to you though. You obviously are not at interested in a rational discussion about the problems our nations kids seem to have with reacting to emotional stressors. You would rather skip around and shout with glee every time they murder someone. That's on you and shame on you for doing that.

    If at any point you want to talk about the real issues let me know.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    I think you don't have a clue what you're talking about nor who I am. I think you need to consider whether you're making any sense before you beak off.
    Yeah? Or else what tough guy? pfft...You're making yourself look silly.
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    Re: School shooting in Maryville, Washington

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yep, and those wars were predicated on the clear distinctions between right and wrong and Good and Evil.

    The left so wants to blur those lines and move everyone into the gray areas of moral equivalency.

    That comes with consequences unfortunately.
    If fewer wars is one of the consequences, how bad can it be?
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysvi...

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Nothing I have said is about gun free zones.
    Lets put you back on page one. You made a prediction. I then made a prediction. My prediction was based on the nonsense we hear all the times in these discussion about gun free zones. And it came true.

    I can't control what other people do.
    And what they then did was exactly what I predicted would happen.


    Now what is there about that reality that seems to befuddle and confound you?

    I am not discussing this like it is a gun topic.
    Were you operating under the delusion that you could take an event involving a gun and murders and lay down some restrictions that a gun cannot be mentioned?

    I am done talking to you though.
    Promises, promises.

    You would rather skip around and shout with glee every time they murder someone. That's on you and shame on you for doing that.
    Nope... did not do that.

    If at any point you want to talk about the real issues let me know.
    The "real issues" being anything about a murder with a gun in a school like many other murders in schools with guns that then DOES NOT MENTION THE GUN.

    Got it loud and clear.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No one will ever convince me that psychotropic medications are not responsible for most of these incidents. If a reliable study were ever done, we would be astounded at the correlation. The side effects of these meds, prescribed like popcorn to our loved ones, are appalling.
    You may be right Maggie. But I can tell you I have seen the other side of that fence. My sister has Huntington's Chorea. It's a wretched adult on-set genetic disease that ravages the mind and the body. My sister has been severe bipolar since her mid thirties. She's 66 now. As her primary caretaker for 15 years, I went through numerous suicide attempts, countless incarcerations (mental lockups) and participated in the daily struggle to keep her life in balance. We helped her through divorce, loss of jobs, financial struggles, assited living and ultimately to memory care where she is spending her final days.

    Ironically one of the side effects of heavy dosages of psychotropic medications is a physical movement disorder that is very similar to the movement disorder associated with Huntington's. Tardive Dyskinesia. My sister was misdiagnosed for many years. Finally a shrink at the VA figured it out.

    Anyway my sister's life was dependent on those drugs. When they were balanced, she could function fairly normally. When they weren't, she was a mess.
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Correct. Tyranny and defense were so important, it was the second issue our Founding Fathers addressed. Allowing citizens to be left defenseless against the two was a potential form of suicide they would not allow to be abdicated to those who might demand it.
    It was, however, a very different war and citizen militias were much more common and certainly more needed as part of the national defense. It is largely not likely that our founding fathers would not have seen tings differently after 200 years of history. I'm not saying that this means an automatic overturning or change, but that we act as if they would have stayed stagnant, unchanged by real world changes and realities.

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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Shaylee Chuckulnaskit and Gia Soriano, both 14, were identified Saturday morning as the two girls wounded in Friday’s shooting at Marysville-Pilchuck High School.

    Both girls had surgery Friday after being shot in the head, and both remained in critical condition in intensive care on Saturday, according to Dr. Joanne Roberts, chief medical officer for Providence Regional Medical Center in Everett. She said both girls had extensive surgery.

    “The next three days are going to be crucial,” Roberts said. “These young people are being monitored moment-by-moment. We won’t know a whole lot more for the next two or three days.”

    They have a nurse at their bedsides constantly, she said.

    Roberts read a brief statement from Soriano’s family. “Our family is in shock,” it said. “We appreciate your thoughts and prayers during this tragedy. Our hearts go out to the other victims and their families. Please allow us our privacy as we deal with this tragedy.”

    She said she has spent time with both families. “We’ve seen tears. We’ve seen anger. We’ve seen just grieving,” she said.

    Outside the high school Saturday a growing number of bouquets were being added to a memorial against a chain link fence.

    “Even though I wasn’t close with any of them, they still deserve respect and their families deserve it,” said Karalyn Demarest, 17, a senior at the school.

    She and her mother, Naomi Demarest, brought a bouquet of roses Naomi recently received from her husband, a fisherman who is away. “I think they’re needed more here,” she said.
    Wounded girls identified in Marysville-Pilchuck High School shooting | The Today File | Seattle Times




    Gunman at Washington state school targeted his cousins, relative says

    (CNN) -- When a gunman opened fire at students in a school cafeteria in Washington state on Friday, he was not shooting at random targets, his relative said.
    Jaylen Fryberg, who witnesses said gunned down students at Marysville-Pilchuck High School, is the cousin of two of the wounded, their grandfather said.
    "All three of them are cousins, and they live right close to each other," Don Hatch told CNN affiliate KOMO.
    By the time the shooting was over, two people -- the gunman and a female student -- were dead and four were wounded, according to authorities.
    The victims were all under age 18, they said.
    Washington school shooting: Gunman targeted his cousins - CNN.com
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    Re: Breaking: Investigators are responding to reported school shooting in Marysville,

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    My prediction - if everyone carried an uzi then this would not have happened. Or something to that effect.
    So it was a gun free zone then?

    Why do we hate our children?

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    Re: School shooting in Maryville, Washington

    Was it a gun free zone?"
    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    All schools are.
    Why do we hate our children? Why do we create a place where murder of our children is so easy?

    It is time to arm up. Everyone in authority at every school should be encouraged to concealed carry.

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