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Islam convert shot dead after ax attack on NYPD cops

j-mac said:
Am I in the wrong thread? I could have sworn that this thread was about the Islamic convert wielding a hatchet and going after NY cops....Or has it been decided by libs that there is nothing to see here move along....Kind of like Ebola....
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The "libs" are not the ones who changed the subject.
 
rocket88 said:
How many years do we have to go back for the Democrats/KKK connection
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As many years as we go back to the Republican "Southern Strategy".
 
rocket88 said:
It would certainly change who's on which side in this thread. Unfortunately, there are many (many of whom are attacking Muslims here) who would defend it if it were.

Don't pretend like they wouldn't, because we both know they would.
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I actually disagree ... sure a few outliers would... but unlike Islam, Christianity has become more about peace and love. No one disputes that Christianity had it's hay day of violence, torture, murder, rape, stealing, pillaging all of that.... but times changed and with it Christianity. What would help is if people called a spade a spade and stopped hiding behind political correctness. Instead, many attack Christianity for the sole reason it IS a peaceful religion and the church would not call for death to the non-believers. It is that fact as well, because Islam has many who are violent, that those same people who attach Christianity would not dare to say a public word about Islam our of fear.

Everything has exceptions - but when was the last time you saw an atheist group take an Muslim mosque to court? Publicly denounce Islam and how it's a "fairy tale" religion? I certainly don't see that happen at all but I do see it happen all the time with Christianity. It makes me believe that fear works - and Islam saw what happened to Christianity and learned a lesson from it. That's not my belief but just an observation.... time will tell.
 
Kobie said:
The "libs" are not the ones who changed the subject.
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I don't know that because I am not going to go back and wade through all of the foolishness, but even if I take your word for it, you did end it either did you? No.
 
j-mac said:
I'll bet the cop who got an axe to the back of the head didn't think it was such a stupid idea...
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Definitely not,

But this ISIS instruction to target the police seems to have a double positive. First it is away from civilians and second aimed at the police whom are trained and could deal with these attacks effectively.
 
DDD said:
Definitely not,

But this ISIS instruction to target the police seems to have a double positive. First it is away from civilians and second aimed at the police whom are trained and could deal with these attacks effectively.
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Well, for ISIS I would say it has a third as well, and that is that true terror means you don't know when or where it will happen, and if they can take out police, then no one is safe.
 
j-mac said:
Well, for ISIS I would say it has a third as well, and that is that true terror means you don't know when or where it will happen, and if they can take out police, then no one is safe.
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For the time being such terrorists seem to have identifiable features. As for taking out the police with axes, I think them and you can mind as well forget it! This idea is pretty stupid!
 
DDD said:
Definitely not, But this ISIS instruction to target the police seems to have a double positive. First it is away from civilians and second aimed at the police whom are trained and could deal with these attacks effectively.
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They are not trained to watch people with axes approaching from behind.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
I certainly wouldn't equate a conversion to Islam with a mental disorder. Also, this person didn't recently made a recent significant change in his lifestyle. I'm sure there are plenty of people who have made significant lifestyle changes and didn't go on a rampage, but like you say, those don't hit the news.
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I wasn't really going for equivalence. Just that there are murders galore out there and this OP poster is completely obsessed with just the Muslim kind.
 
j-mac said:
Well, for ISIS I would say it has a third as well, and that is that true terror means you don't know when or where it will happen, and if they can take out police, then no one is safe.
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I'm not very terrified though.

I mean, at this point if it happens it happens, and it's so unlikely I'd do more harm to myself by worrying about it than anything.
 
j-mac said:
I don't know that because I am not going to go back and wade through all of the foolishness, but even if I take your word for it, you did end it either did you? No.
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Actually 'the libs' did change the subject starting with the very second post. The OP was about a fundamentalist extremist Muslim committing a random act of violence and immediately afterward liberals did what they always do...try to draw attention away from the violent act of extremist fundamentalist Muslims. When even a liberal hack like Bill Maher can see so easily through 'typical liberals' and their kneejerk defense of Muslims...well...saran wrap is less transparent.
 
poweRob said:
I wasn't really going for equivalence. Just that there are murders galore out there and this OP poster is completely obsessed with just the Muslim kind.
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My observation was about the stories about those who have recently converted. That seems very strange to me that someone who recently converted would become so radicalized, so quickly. Don't you find it odd? I'm not aware of anyone who has recently converted to any other religion to have caused this kind of extreme personal violence.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
My observation was about the stories about those who have recently converted. That seems very strange to me that someone who recently converted would become so radicalized, so quickly. Don't you find it odd? I'm not aware of anyone who has recently converted to any other religion to have caused this kind of extreme personal violence.
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Many are called "reverts", who had Muslim parents, left the flock, and returned later. That was the case in Canada. There are many websites regarding these 'reverts'. Revert Stories
 
The religious component in delusional behaviour is well established.
 
WCH said:
Because ISIS (among several Muslim groups) have encouraged lone wolf attacks on LE, military [and their families] etc in this country.

Three in North America this week.
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Thats exactly it, and even if they aren't associated directly with ISIS, they are converts who do this in the name of radical islam. And then there was that beheading a few weeks ago. Clearly, this is the religion (and politics) of peace, isn't it?
 
US Conservative said:
Thats exactly it, and even if they aren't associated directly with ISIS, they are converts who do this in the name of radical islam. And then there was that beheading a few weeks ago. Clearly, this is the religion (and politics) of peace, isn't it?
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It's similar to a Baptism where they are "Born Again", a 'Rite of Passage' in the Islamist faith.
 
US Conservative said:
Thats exactly it, and even if they aren't associated directly with ISIS, they are converts who do this in the name of radical islam. And then there was that beheading a few weeks ago. Clearly, this is the religion (and politics) of peace, isn't it?
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Some apologists are claiming the "Lone Wolf" theory when that is clearly not the case, any more than other suicide bombers were "Lone Wolves". President Obama said it was "senseless" when, from an Islamist's point of view, it makes perfect sense.
 
Grant said:
Some apologists are claiming the "Lone Wolf" theory when that is clearly not the case, any more than other suicide bombers were "Lone Wolves". President Obama said it was "senseless" when, from an Islamist's point of view, it makes perfect sense.
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This is what always gets me-THEY ARE OPEN ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND WHY. But our silly PC president wont address them.
 
US Conservative said:
Thats exactly it, and even if they aren't associated directly with ISIS, they are converts who do this in the name of radical islam. And then there was that beheading a few weeks ago. Clearly, this is the religion (and politics) of peace, isn't it?
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And let's not forget Brendan Tevlin. He may not have been a soldier but his life was just as valuable. Muslim Man Says He Killed New Jersey Teen Brendan Tevlin as Payback for US Action Against Muslims in Middle East
 
mak2 said:
I ahve no idea and doubt if there is a google way to find out, but I bet there has been about the same number of Muslim murders in US in last 12 months as there has been murders starting with arguments about parking spots and which way the toilet paper comes off the role as there ahs been radical Muslim murders.
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Was that a spell check mistake?
 
Grant said:
And yet the left wing was very concerned about the number of US fatalities in Iraq. Why did they not use the same comparison between Iraqi casualties and traffic accidents then?

If Leftists could concentrate on just one issue at a time, rather then diverting it to auto safety or parking spaces, perhaps there could be some genuine conversation about the real problems much of the world faces.
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I would say the number of fatalities in Iraq are insignificant compared to the men that died just on D-Day, let alone the rest of WWII.

Why does the left even comment on how many died in Iraq?
 
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