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Islam convert shot dead after ax attack on NYPD cops

Yes, it is. What did you take away from that?

Well, I'd take that the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free slaves. So what freedoms did they get from Republicans?
 
Democrats sure weren't helping the cause of " equality for all " back in the day.

They filibustered the 1964 Voting rights act.

They were the party behind Jim Crow and segregation and the KKK.

See, here's the double standard. If you want to dig dirt on the left it doesn't matter how far back you go. Bring up McVeigh and it's "Why must you bring up something that happened 20 years ago?"

If 20 years is too long, 50 is even longer.
 
Grand dragon...democrat before and after. Based on what Malcolm X said about democrats and blacks...I'd say it was spot on.

So Democrats' past is fine, but Republicans' past is off limits?
 
Fair enough. You first. Do muslim acting in the Name of faith. I'll do Christians. (and for the record I am not an athiest and you can find plenty of posts from me defending christianity on this site. I dont hate or dislike christianity or christians. I am simply proving a point).

Target time frame will be the last 10 years.
I got more in 10 WEEKS or even 10 DAYS then you go in 10 YEARS.
thereligionofpeace.com

Last 3 DAYS:

2014.10.24 (al-Kharouba , Egypt) - Two Dozen people are torn to shreds by an Ansar Bayt al-Maqsis Suicide Car Bomber.
2014.10.23 (Quetta, Pakistan) - Two people are blown to bits by a Shahid suicide Bomber.
2014.10.23 (Quetta, Pakistan) - Suspected Lashkar-e-Jhangvi board a bus carrying Shiites and open fire, killing Eight innocents.
2014.10.22 (Cairo, Egypt) - Ajnad Misr members detonate a Bomb outside a university.
2014.10.22 (Maguindanao, Philippines) - Two guards at a hospital are murdered by a militant Muslim group.
2014.10.22 (Ottawa, ON, Canada) - A reserve soldier is killed during attacks on a war memorial and parliament building by a Muslim extremist.


Weekly Jihad Report
Oct 11 - Oct 17

Jihad Attacks: 78
Allah Akbars*: 15
Dead Bodies: 630
Critically Injured: 828
*Suicide Attacks


Monthly Jihad Report

September, 2014

Jihad Attacks: 234
Countries: 27
Allah Akbars: 21
Dead Bodies: 2931

Critically Injured: 4539

Last 30 Days ONLY.
Deaths in the NAME of Islam ONLY:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks


Of course, in the USA ONLY [strawman], there are 35x-40x as many Christians as Muslims.
NEVERTHELESS:
Fifty Terror Plots Foiled Since 9/11: The Homegrown Threat and the Long War on Terrorism
http://www.heritage.org/research/re...omegrown-threat-and-the-long-war-on-terrorism

GAME OVER
 
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Yep...that's what happens when 97% of your voting population blindly give their support to one party based on he myth and lie that they care about you. Geezus...they have been consistently ****ed for 50 years and haven't even gotten flowers. But...on the plus side they DID get a street named after MLK in every major city.

Of course, Republicans don't even have the myth that they care. Then they bitch about the black community's voting patterns.
 
The majority were Republicans. Although many believe that Black civil rights began in 1964 (and sadly many Blacks believe this) it was President Eisenhower who ordered troops to force the desegregation of Americans schools opposed, of course, by the Democrats. Our Documents - Executive Order 10730: Desegregation of Central High School (1957) The Democrats were the authors of these laws, and still use Black people for their own ends. Lyndon Johnson summed it up best. "I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for two hundred years".Talk:Lyndon B. Johnson - Wikiquote

Actually, JFK was a champion of civil rights. Also, he wasn't a Republican.

Congress in 1964 had a Democratic majority in both houses. Without at least some Democratic support, the Civil Rights Act could not have passed.

88th United States Congress - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
The majority were Republicans.

The vast, vast majority of Northern Democrats AND Republicans voted for the '64 CRA; the vast, vast majority of Southern Democrats AND Republicans voted against it. Support for civil rights was divided by geography, not party. Why do you continue to repeat your same debunked lies?

Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)

Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)
 


“Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't.”


― Mark Twain
 
So Democrats' past is fine, but Republicans' past is off limits?

If Liberals didn't spin history the they do, you wouldn't have to do so much crawfishin'.
 
To me it's something to keep tabs on and see what comes out of it, similar to the guy up in Canada.

Intelligence analysts for some time have been suggesting lone wolf actors who become attracted to the message of Islamists and seek to "do their part" locally, as an entirely independent lone wolf "cell" disconnected from the organization that essentially "motivated them", could end up being the more dangerous threat in regards to various forms of terrorism.

There's reasonable EARLY evidence with both of these gentleman to suggest that it's possible the motives surrounding their illegal activity is directly inspired by, and in a weird sort of way in support of, groups like ISIS. As the investigations go on it'll be very interesting to see if those links actually strengthen or remain simply fringe notions without a truly solid backing.

As to all the concern about the disproportionate outrage or concern or attention, I do truly hope that the same posters have in the past and will in the future put forth similar concern for those grossly over reacting to mass shootings....an issue accounting for a miniscule amount of homocides or even gun deaths (which is a questionable stat in and of itself as it typically includes suicides) in this country.

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The vast, vast majority of Northern Democrats AND Republicans voted for the '64 CRA; the vast, vast majority of Southern Democrats AND Republicans voted against it. Support for civil rights was divided by geography, not party. Why do you continue to repeat your same debunked lies?

Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)

Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

On a whim I added the numbers up.

In the House version:
Total members: 258 democrat, 172 republican
For: 152 democrats, 138 republicans
Opposed: 106 democrats, 34 republicans.

Senate version:
Total members: 67 democrat, 33 republicans
For: 46 democrats, 27 republicans.
Opposed: 21 democrats, 6 republicans.

It appears that in neither vote did more republicans vote for the bill than democrats, although it would appear that you COULD claim a higher percentage of republicans voted for rather than against.
But most of that is due to the democrats being stronger in the southern states, as you say.
 
It appears that in neither vote did more republicans vote for the bill than democrats, although it would appear that you COULD claim a higher percentage of republicans voted for rather than against.
But most of that is due to the democrats being stronger in the southern states, as you say.

Which was largely a product of post-Civil War resentment of the GOP.
 
Am I in the wrong thread? I could have sworn that this thread was about the Islamic convert wielding a hatchet and going after NY cops....Or has it been decided by libs that there is nothing to see here move along....Kind of like Ebola....
 
Am I in the wrong thread? I could have sworn that this thread was about the Islamic convert wielding a hatchet and going after NY cops....Or has it been decided by libs that there is nothing to see here move along....Kind of like Ebola....
I dunno.
 
Am I in the wrong thread? I could have sworn that this thread was about the Islamic convert wielding a hatchet and going after NY cops....Or has it been decided by libs that there is nothing to see here move along....Kind of like Ebola....

Osama Bin Laden Is Dead And GM Is Alive, You Racist. must stick to the program, believe in the program, must stick to the program, believe in the program....
 
Osama Bin Laden Is Dead And GM Is Alive, You Racist. must stick to the program, believe in the program, must stick to the program, believe in the program....


heh, heh....No doubt...
 
Lmao... are you kidding?

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h182

The majority of people who voted for CRA'64 were Democrats in both the House & Senate. Don't play this game, Grant. You'll lose.

No, I don't think so. Al Sharpton Gets Civil Rights History Wrong - Katie Pavlich

Eisenhower enforced a SCOTUS ruling against his own personal feelings. Nothing wrong with that, admirable really.

But his feelings weren't based on race. If you insist on looking for heroic Democrats regarding race you could try Harry Truman and his desegregation of the military. The rest? Not so much.
 
Well, I'd take that the Emancipation Proclamation didn't free slaves. So what freedoms did they get from Republicans?
It was the Democrats who were fighting for the freedom of slaves then? Okay, have it your way.
 
Am I in the wrong thread? I could have sworn that this thread was about the Islamic convert wielding a hatchet and going after NY cops....Or has it been decided by libs that there is nothing to see here move along....Kind of like Ebola....

You're right again. The thread got side-tracked.

Here's a photo of one of the Canadian victims of Islamic terrorism along with an interesting suggestion by a Canadian/British/American columnist. Talking Treason :: SteynOnline
 
The image strikes terror to us civilians:

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But he was influenced from ISIS to attack with an axe fully armed cops?! What a stupid idea!
 

In what world is a minority party a majority?

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h182

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In a cherry picking world. ;)

But his feelings weren't based on race.

Right, they were based on legality.

If you insist on looking for heroic Democrats regarding race you could try Harry Truman and his desegregation of the military. The rest? Not so much.

Southerners you mean?
 
Actually, I'm not one to want to ban or severely restrict guns (depending on your definition of "severe." We all have different lines of severity that we aren't willing to cross).

A majority of Muslims don't do anything like this. Especially in the US and Canada. I wouldn't call on restricting all of a group based on the actions of a few.

That's fair - but why aren't you and others prepared to concede that radical Muslims and Islamic terrorists acquire their radicalism and terrorist tendencies from their religion and its teachings? Do you think these people just wake up one day, in a vacuum, and decide to kill a police officer or soldier in the name of Allah on a whim?
 
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