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    Re: Islam convert shot dead after ax attack on NYPD cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    It's not a terrorist attack.

    It's workplace violence
    Since this didn't take place in the attacker's workplace, then no, it wouldn't be.

    Don't you guys get sick of spouting off the same stupid lines over, and over, and over, and over again?
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    Re: Islam convert shot dead after ax attack on NYPD cops

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The outrage isn't proportional because any time violent crimes in America are discussed liberals trip over themselves to excuse and justify the perpetrators of the violent criminal acts. Liberals won't address who is committing the vast majority of criminal acts. I'm glad to see you are willing to buck that trend and call it out regardless of the skin tone of those committing the vast majority of those violent crimes. Ready to build more prisons?
    And that's a bunch of horse****. Who on earth is making excuses for this guy?
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    Re: Islam convert shot dead after ax attack on NYPD cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Perhaps there would be more outrage if it were a Catholic or Baptist that did the axing.
    Or perhaps not.
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    Re: Islam convert shot dead after ax attack on NYPD cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why won't you answer my questions? Look, the reality is that in the last 50 years, the people who are still 'leading the nation in every category' have also achieved what Republicans didn't provide for 100 years. Is that true or not? Let's go the 1920s shall we? We had a black population which - EVEN AFTER VOTING FOR REPUBLICANS FOR 100 YEARS - had an insignificant purchasing power and even less political force. Fast forward to 2014 and we have literally thousands of black millionaires (that's just the NBA, music and NFL).

    Why did that not exist when blacks were voting for Republicans? Why did Republicans not make that possible? You can complain all you want, but the advances are there. More blacks complete university today than in the 100 years they voted Republican. There are more blacks who are in the upper classes than in the 100 years they voted for Republicans. Do you deny this?
    There are more today which proves they are every bit as capable as every other race and group. Why didn't it happen sooner? Oh...I don't know...perhaps it took a few years to build from ground zero? Perhaps during that first 100 years after the civil war (and who exactly was it that was leading the charge for change for those blacks in that first 100 years? Who was it that fought civil rights laws at every turn?). Its great that some have progressed. Now...why is it with all that progress blacks have made blacks still fill the prisons, commit crimes at a far greater rate than every other race group in the nation, still live in poverty, still fill ghettos, still murder each other like they have graduate degrees in it? Malcolm's words from the 60s are hauntingly appropriate right now, almost 50 years later. You keep throwing out the word cherry picking which is exactly what you are doing in your zeal to show 'progress' and the fruits of mindless blind support of a political party that sees you as nothing more than a voting bloc.

    What was the polling numbers during the last election? 97%? And what has that gotten them?

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    Re: Islam convert shot dead after ax attack on NYPD cops

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    There are more today which proves they are every bit as capable as every other race and group.
    And yet... without the policies which were put in place, blacks didn't achieve that modicum of progress you seem to love attacking every other or so post.

    Why didn't it happen sooner? Oh...I don't know...perhaps it took a few years to build from ground zero?
    Ah, so now it's about time. The way Republicans completely disregarded the black communities in Northern AND Southern states for 100 years can be explained away because they needed 100 years to rebuild from ground zero? Ummm... I'm pretty sure by the 1910s, the East Coast (at this time primarily Republican) had been rebuilt. Why didn't Republicans who ran most of the East Coast for ... oh... 70 years create the infrastructure in their states? Yeah, no your answer is nonsense.

    Perhaps during that first 100 years after the civil war (and who exactly was it that was leading the charge for change for those blacks in that first 100 years? Who was it that fought civil rights laws at every turn?). Its great that some have progressed. Now...why is it with all that progress blacks have made blacks still fill the prisons, commit crimes at a far greater rate than every other race group in the nation, still live in poverty, still fill ghettos, still murder each other like they have graduate degrees in it
    What was it you said? Time? Yeah, time. Give us another 40 years. We're rebuilding from ground zero.

    Malcolm's words from the 60s are hauntingly appropriate right now, almost 50 years later. You keep throwing out the word cherry picking which is exactly what you are doing in your zeal to show 'progress' and the fruits of mindless blind support of a political party that sees you as nothing more than a voting bloc.

    What was the polling numbers during the last election? 97%? And what has that gotten them?
    Hauntingly appropriate? Lol. Malcolm X lived in a time where most blacks couldn't even set foot in the majority of universities, purchasing power was minute and political strength was almost non-existent. Compare that to today? Where you have Republicans and Democrats breaking their backs in states like Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi to get the 'black vote' and you'll find your assessment of what he would feel is patently false.
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    Re: Islam convert shot dead after ax attack on NYPD cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Ideologies are there to support a lot murder. Or in this case attempted murder. How is this mans ideology worse than a man whos ideals make him believe women are sluts who need to be punished? Or a Nazi/Skinhead whos ideologies cause him to believe jews deserve to be slaughterd? Gang member who believe a rival gang member deserves to be shot? A christian who kills a muslim because they are scared they may be a terrorist?
    So far as I know, this persons ideology (if he has such) is no worse than any other ideology that supports and recommends killing people in any and all ways including suicidal attacks.

    The problem in this case is that said ideology has lots of followers and controls an area of land (at least currently) wherein they are enacting any and all of their worst practices - and that this person may have willingly associated himself with them (so far as I know any connection has yet to be proven).

    In short, the scope of this ideology is larger than other similar ideologies, thus warranting more resources focused on blocking it.
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    Re: Islam convert shot dead after ax attack on NYPD cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And yet... without the policies which were put in place, blacks didn't achieve that modicum of progress you seem to love attacking every other or so post.



    Ah, so now it's about time. The way Republicans completely disregarded the black communities in Northern AND Southern states for 100 years can be explained away because they needed 100 years to rebuild from ground zero? Ummm... I'm pretty sure by the 1910s, the East Coast (at this time primarily Republican) had been rebuilt. Why didn't Republicans who ran most of the East Coast for ... oh... 70 years create the infrastructure in their states? Yeah, no your answer is nonsense.



    What was it you said? Time? Yeah, time. Give us another 40 years. We're rebuilding from ground zero.



    Hauntingly appropriate? Lol. Malcolm X lived in a time where most blacks couldn't even set foot in the majority of universities, purchasing power was minute and political strength was almost non-existent. Compare that to today? Where you have Republicans and Democrats breaking their backs in states like Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi to get the 'black vote' and you'll find your assessment of what he would feel is patently false.
    Democrats sure weren't helping the cause of " equality for all " back in the day.

    They filibustered the 1964 Voting rights act.

    They were the party behind Jim Crow and segregation and the KKK.

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    Re: Islam convert shot dead after ax attack on NYPD cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And yet... without the policies which were put in place, blacks didn't achieve that modicum of progress you seem to love attacking every other or so post.



    Ah, so now it's about time. The way Republicans completely disregarded the black communities in Northern AND Southern states for 100 years can be explained away because they needed 100 years to rebuild from ground zero? Ummm... I'm pretty sure by the 1910s, the East Coast (at this time primarily Republican) had been rebuilt. Why didn't Republicans who ran most of the East Coast for ... oh... 70 years create the infrastructure in their states? Yeah, no your answer is nonsense.



    What was it you said? Time? Yeah, time. Give us another 40 years. We're rebuilding from ground zero.



    Hauntingly appropriate? Lol. Malcolm X lived in a time where most blacks couldn't even set foot in the majority of universities, purchasing power was minute and political strength was almost non-existent. Compare that to today? Where you have Republicans and Democrats breaking their backs in states like Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi to get the 'black vote' and you'll find your assessment of what he would feel is patently false.
    Actually you made it about 'time'. Question asked and answered. Blacks have been duped into blind support. They have been conned into thinking one party actually 'cares' for them. Are things better for some? Sure. They are better for whites too. Are they dismal for many? Yep. Any prospect of getting better for them? Nope. If anything it will get worse.

    But you keep buying the sales pitch. And blacks in this country should by all means keep voting enmasse for democrats. It's working so well.

    His words were prophetic...then and now.
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    Re: Islam convert shot dead after ax attack on NYPD cops

    I never knew that the Republican Party was formed in the 1820's. I never knew that the Fifteenth Amendment was ratified way back then, either--forty years before the Civil War. I learn new things every day from the Obama drones on here.

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    Re: Islam convert shot dead after ax attack on NYPD cops

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Democrats sure weren't helping the cause of " equality for all " back in the day.

    They filibustered the 1964 Voting rights act.
    Good stuff, did you know that without Democrats, the CRA'64 wouldn't have passed?

    They were the party behind Jim Crow and segregation and the KKK.
    White southerner voters* were the group behind Jim Crow, segregation and the KKK. Funny how people forget to mention why blacks won't vote for white Southerners though.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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