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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    For a so-called professional you like to scaremonger. That's not airborne, it's aerosol.
    OMG! Nooooooo! Well, take his damned credentials away, he clearly is not as qualified as you to speak on the matter...
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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Also, some strains of ebola have indeed spread through the air, and with the rapid rate of spread its increasingly likely it will happen again. Note that things like increased mobility from outbreak locations makes this even more likely and potentially more deadly.
    From Pigs to Monkeys, Ebola Goes Airborne | HealthMap
    Heya USC. Yep I have had those researchers up and the one that showed primates getting infected. By Air alone.

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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Good point. I should have been clearer, as I was referring to the doctor's case. He couldn't spread it before he became symptomatic. Once one has come down with Ebola, the virus lingers in one's semen for an extended period of time.
    Heya DS. What do you think about that International Study challenging the 21 day incubation period?

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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    OMG! Nooooooo! Well, take his damned credentials away, he clearly is not as qualified as you to speak on the matter...

    As it happens, for once you're correct, he isn't.
    Don't work out, work in.

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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    As it happens, for once you're correct, he isn't.
    I absolutely am. Now slip into some wine and read New Yorker magazine.

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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I absolutely am. Now slip into some wine and read New Yorker magazine.
    The article says researchers believe the disease spread by droplets, NOT airborne.

    While the study provided evidence that transmission of Ebola between species is possible, researchers still cannot say for certain how that transmission actually occurred. There are three likely candidates for the route of transmission: airborne, droplet, or fomites.
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    Author Dr. Gary Kobinger suspects that the virus is transmitted through droplets
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    What do these findings mean? First and foremost, Ebola is not suddenly an airborne disease. .... Furthermore, because human Ebola outbreaks have historically been locally contained, it is unlikely that Ebola can spread between humans via airborne transmission.

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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The article says researchers believe the disease spread by droplets, NOT airborne.
    I don't get the definition of "airborn" that they're talking about. Coughs and Sneezes leave droplets in the air some as small as 5 microns that could stay in the air indefinitely. If the ebola virus is contained in one of those droplets it can land on someone, be inhaled by them, go in their eye (mucus membrane) etc. Larger droplets will eventually fall onto surfaces which can then be picked up by someone touching that spot. The virus is transferred onto the other persons skin and then again into the eye or other mucus membrane. This is how the flu travels every year - the flu is a virus the same as ebola is a virus.

    The Gross Science of a Cough and a Sneeze

    What I do understand is that ebola is not as resilient on surfaces as say the flu can be. Ebola likes wet warm environments and at least in the US, the seasonal change in some of the country will be very hostile to Ebola should it get on a surface outside. Inside, the humidity commonly drops in the norther tier of states so dry heat will also not be very helpful to Ebola.
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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    As it happens, for once you're correct, he isn't.

    Good one.
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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I don't get the definition of "airborn" that they're talking about. Coughs and Sneezes leave droplets in the air some as small as 5 microns that could stay in the air indefinitely. If the ebola virus is contained in one of those droplets it can land on someone, be inhaled by them, go in their eye (mucus membrane) etc. Larger droplets will eventually fall onto surfaces which can then be picked up by someone touching that spot. The virus is transferred onto the other persons skin and then again into the eye or other mucus membrane. This is how the flu travels every year - the flu is a virus the same as ebola is a virus.
    The CDC runs down the research here: Review of Human-to-Human Transmission of Ebola Virus | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC

    It appears the primates were 20cm from the pigs, and pigs can generate large droplets very effectively. In other conditions - such as when a plexiglass barrier prevented large droplets, but wouldn't contain the small ones you refer to, there was no transmission. And in studies of humans, in the VAST majority of cases, the person infected is known to have directly contacted human bodily fluids, and indirect transmission can't be confirmed but is in any event very rare. That's consistent with the cases here where it's only healthcare workers directly treating the dying patient who got sick, and not other bystanders, including family members living in the same home.

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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    The article says researchers believe the disease spread by droplets, NOT airborne.
    Yes, and I have demonstrated that the disease is also capable of airborne transmission.

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