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    Re: Doctor being tested for Ebola in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Travel restrictions look better and better all the time.
    How would it have stopped a doctor?

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    Re: Doctor being tested for Ebola in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Remember the doctors that contracted it in West Africa saying they followed strict protocols and they are stunned that they still got it? Such statements and now this doctor who, presumably also followed strict protocols when treating patients in West Africa also contracted the disease. For it to be so difficult to get, it seemingly is very resilient to get by those who know best how to prevent it and who are best protected. It makes me doubt the whole "it's very difficult to contract Ebola" message.
    Except (so far at least) the people in the U.S. getting Ebola were clearly in direct contact, and repeated contact, with people sick and dying of Ebola. There have been no cases (at least so far) of any incidental contact leading to infection, e.g. a door knob, etc.

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    Re: Doctor being tested for Ebola in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Except (so far at least) the people in the U.S. getting Ebola were clearly in direct contact, and repeated contact, with people sick and dying of Ebola. There have been no cases (at least so far) of any incidental contact leading to infection, e.g. a door knob, etc.
    So far that is true. That however may change going forward and it is prudent to take proactive steps to prevent it spreading without direct contact with a sick/dying Ebola infected person. Wouldn't you agree?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Yes, our most densely packed metropolis -- let's indeed pray.

    Though the good doctor most certainly did not intend for anything bad to happen, epidemic-wise, I'm struck by the following two likely scenarios:

    1. Either he knew he was sufficiently exposed to blood, vomit, and feces in West Africa to warrant him returning to America for the best care and his behavior was selfish and arrogant in not immediately self-isolating and contacting the CDC and demanding protective isolation quarantine ..

    .. or 2. he didn't think he could possibly have the disease as he knew he didn't have sufficient exposure to blood, vomit, and feces, wore what he believed was adequate protection when he was treating patients in West Africa .. and he was wrong about how the disease can be transmitted.

    Though the great majority of medical professionals think like this doctor with respect to how the disease is transmitted, virologists are, nevertheless, concerned about mutation to airborne.

    The less exposure our populace takes, the less likely the disease will mutate to airborne here.

    MSN stated the Doctor's temperature was 100.3 not 103. That is a significant difference. It will be interesting to observe if NYC reacts in the cluster**** manner of Dallas with all its' careless mistakes. The article went on to state the Doctor was tired Tuesday, went out bowling Wednesday, and was 100.3 on Thursday and reported himself. 3 of his close people quarantined, apartment closed off, etc. Sounds good. These professionals know when they volunteer what the risks can be. I admire the fact he was selfless enough to try to help. Does this case indicate that all professionals returning from an Ebola hotspot be quarantined? Perhaps?

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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    Friends do NOT expose Friends to Ebola!

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    Re: Doctor being tested for Ebola in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Mentioning that ebola is not an airborne virus, transmission requires contact with bodily fluids/secretions, the risk of transmission when one is not symptomatic is remote, etc., does not mean that one is seeking to "protect" the White House. Those details are based on what's currently known about the virus. A useful source:

    WHO | Ebola virus disease

    I've mentioned that the initial CDC communications were suboptimal and that the Dallas experience highlighted some gaps that needed to be addressed. Those things aside, the U.S. remains in a very strong position to avoid an ebola epidemic.

    Finally, a mutation that leads to airborne transmission of ebola is extremely unlikely. Two links that were shared with me:

    From Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases:
    Don't Expect Ebola to Go Airborne

    From Microbiology & Immunology Professor Vincent Racaniello of the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Columbia University:
    What we are not afraid to say about Ebola virus
    A number of left-leaners are obviously more concerned about protecting their political power allies than being sensitive to the majority population's intelligent real concerns.

    Your premise (stating how doctors think Ebola is/isn't transmitted) does not logically lead to your conclusion (no one is trying to protect the White House).

    That's a disconnect.

    A number of left-leaners are insensitively mocking the intelligent real concerns of the majority population.

    The leading logical reason such mocking would occur .. is because the mockers are scared, scared of political repercussions.

    As to your second link, that's clearly a political damage-control link, an appeal to administrative authority, and is thus of no value.

    With regard to your third link, you may wish to read it again, as it is clearly saying "we don't know" all there is to know about how a virus mutates to airborne. Though they haven't witnessed that mutation recently, they know it can indeed occur.

    There's more to be considered: http://www.debatepolitics.com/health...ight-host.html.

    It's best that we all be sensitive to the great majority's intelligent real concerns.

    The quickest way to start a real panic is to ignore or mock those intelligent real concerns and for those with the authority to do something to do nothing.

    The mockers need to stop their panic-creating behavior ..

    .. And show some intelligent sensitivity.
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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I also don't think any EU countries are issuing 100 visas per day to Africans from countries with the Ebola outbreak.

    This is why Obama has made it political. 1,000 visas per week are still being issued by the Obama State Dept. to Africans from three West African countries with the Ebola outbreak and most are likely visas over stays. In layman terms as soon as their visas expires they will still be in America, will become illegal aliens aka undocumented Democrats and will just wait around for amnesty.

    That's the real reason why the Obama administration refuses to stop incoming passengers from West Africa entering our country.
    1000 eh?

    Got a link? Oh that's right you just post stuff and expect us to believe it.

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    Re: Doctor rushed to Bellevue Hospital with Ebola symptoms went bowling a day earlier

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    I do NOT believe a 100% travel ban is needed, or in the best interests of America.

    I think we should limit those traveling to and from West Africa to essential Ebola Aid personnel ONLY.

    I think we (America) need to be very heavily involved in the combating of Ebola in Western Africa, and to support that effort, we need to be sending somewhere around 20,000 emergency drafted Doctors, Nurses and Hospital Mechanics to Africa. We need to learn what we can from working in Africa, and have those bitter, but essential lessons telecom sent back to the USA. We need to create a cadre of experienced Doctors and Nurses, who after being carefully cleared, return to teach our people.

    I think that we need to implement an 8 week remote isolation health monitoring camp period as part of the return protocol.

    I think that about half of the drafted 20,000 doctors and nurses will die in Africa, but that cost is worth the benefit to the United States.

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    Re: Doctor being tested for Ebola in NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    It turns out, they've already got a vaccine, and have had it for years.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/he...for-years.html

    I am beginning to suspect the following:

    The vaccine is already human trialed and fully viable.

    They have already made a few hundred million doses, and it has been distributed to the selected survivors.

    The Wealthy, the Liberal Elite, the Chosen Workers are already all immune and have been for over a year.

    Obama and crew are not worried, because they are immune.

    They have an Enemies of World Liberalism List, and if your name is on it, you've not been given the vaccine, and it is likely you will die in the next few months.

    This is the Obama Answer to Stalin's Purges.

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