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Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

Unrepresented said:
"Per capita income" doesn't specify who's getting richer. It doesn't address the wealth inequality that has been consistently favoring the richest Americans.
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Per capita income has also risen for the middle class and poor, our poor live like the middle class of 30 years ago. Your marxist spin has been throughly discredited, across the decades and across the world. Even the whole middle class bs is because the left could not credibly demonstrate that marxism did ANYTHING for the poor.

Must be frustrating, spending decades (and killing over 100 million) claiming to help the little guy and then it turns out that they do far better under evil capitalism. :lol:
 
Misterveritis said:
""The Marxist's influence is strong in this one."

The Marxist's influence is strong in this one. Radical Karl would agree with your sympathies. The people who put their capital at risk were his target and yours."

Do you disagree? How is your stance against the people who own businesses different from Radical Karl's?"

Who is your target? Your target is anyone who owns anything of value. And Radical Karl? He sounded just the same as you do today. You may not know this but you and Karl Marx are peas in the same pod. You want the dictatorship of the proles to make life fair for you since you are incapable of competing on your own.
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Misterveritis said:
As a general rule people who have something of value to offer get more than people who live in their unmarried mother's basement, smoke pot and hang around on political web sites, hoping the government will steal even more from the productive to give to them.

If you want to earn more try to be worth more.
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A) You don't know anything about my income or personal life.

B) My income level is not relevant to the discussion -- it falls under the ad hominem attacks you've limited yourself to throughout this thread.

C) I can have opinions on economic matters even if I'm not personally not a victim of them. It's called being a good citizen.

D) You're still a troll.
 
Misterveritis said:
As a general rule people who have something of value to offer get more than people who live in their unmarried mother's basement, smoke pot and hang around on political web sites, hoping the government will steal even more from the productive to give to them.

If you want to earn more try to be worth more.
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Thats always what gets me-these guys sit around advocating forcibly STEALING from some via taxation (nevermind the vilification based solely on income) to give to others as THEY see fit (for votes too, of course) and they present that as "benevolent".

At the same time, they paint conservatives as evil for wanting EVERYONE (not just themselves or the wealthy) to keep what they earn and that is somehow "greedy".

Liberal spin and its version of "reality" is really something to behold.
 
Conservative said:
Union demands send Japanese firm, jobs packing from California town | Fox News

Just another example of why California is one of the most unfriendly states to business in the country. California continues to prevent companies from creating jobs and having employees paying taxes which is why California is losing businesses and has among the highest unemployment rates in the nation.
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Japanese and logical decisions, yeah right. Just because California is not wanting to prostitute itself to companies at all cost.
 
disneydude said:
LOL...Your favorite BLS numbers tell the story. Texas and Mississippi are tied as the worst states.....those with the highest percentage of people working for minimum wage. You've seen the numbers.....you just choose to shuffle, dance and try to rationalize. But facts don't lie Con....no matter how much you don't like them.
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There you go again, ignoring the actual facts. I am waiting for you to prove that TX has more making minimum wage than California. I apparently have seen the numbers that you refuse to understand. What part of this don't you understand, CALIFORNIA ISN'T SURVEYED BY BLS BECAUSE THEY DON'T PAY THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE??

If you had said that TX has the largest number making FEDERAL minimum wage you would be right, BUT California has three times the number of Texans making minimum wage which up to July 2014 was $8 an hour.

No matter how many times you make the claim you continue to lie. States can and do set their own minimum wage which is why this is a state issue not a federal issue. It costs a lot more to live in California than TX again a concept you don't understand. Try living in California on the California minimum wage vs TX? You can't and that is why California leads the nation in rate of poverty.
 
Unrepresented said:
A) You don't know anything about my income or personal life.
B) My income level is not relevant to the discussion -- it falls under the ad hominem attacks you've limited yourself to throughout this thread.
C) I can have opinions on economic matters even if I'm not personally not a victim of them. It's called being a good citizen.
D) You're still a troll.
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Who knew Marxists could dance?

Marxism is evil. Those who adhere to Marxist doctrines share in that evil. One cannot be a Marxist and be a good citizen. One cannot support a doctrine that has led to mass murders by nations and be a good citizen.

But one can be naive and foolish to one's heart's content.
 
Misterveritis said:
Who knew Marxists could dance?

Marxism is evil. Those who adhere to Marxist doctrines share in that evil. One cannot be a Marxist and be a good citizen. One cannot support a doctrine that has led to mass murders by nations and be a good citizen.

But one can be naive and foolish to one's heart's content.
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A) You're conflating anything positioned left of you as Marxism, which is absurd.

B) You're still a troll.
 
Unrepresented said:
A) You're conflating anything positioned left of you as Marxism, which is absurd.

B) You're still a troll.
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If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, the way to bet is that it is a duck. And you keep ducking.
 
Conservative said:
Union demands send Japanese firm, jobs packing from California town | Fox News

Just another example of why California is one of the most unfriendly states to business in the country. California continues to prevent companies from creating jobs and having employees paying taxes which is why California is losing businesses and has among the highest unemployment rates in the nation.
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Obviously unions (the collective) believe they own the business (means of production).

And how is that ideology NOT socialist in nature?

Yet of course every union loving progressive on this board will deny they're socialists..
 
Misterveritis said:
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, the way to bet is that it is a duck. And you keep ducking.
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Luckily your analysis is pretty much worthless and carries absolutely no weight in the discussion.
 
Unrepresented said:
Luckily your analysis is pretty much worthless and carries absolutely no weight in the discussion.
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Wow, typical. Deny and imply that others are retarded or simply ignorant.

Would you care to elaborate on your idea?
 
Mr.Nick said:
Wow, typical. Deny and imply that others are retarded or simply ignorant.

Would you care to elaborate on your idea?
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His position thus far into this thread has been to simply accuse anything involving support of working people through organization to be marxism. He wasn't debating, he was throwing out ad hominem attacks.

There's nothing to debate.
Misterveritis said:
Which is Marxist for, "I ain't got nuthin!"

I already knew that. Your own words betray you.
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You haven't provided an argument in this thread. I have nothing to defend against.
 
Unrepresented said:
His position thus far into this thread has been to simply accuse anything involving support of working people through organization to be marxism. He wasn't debating, he was throwing out ad hominem attacks.

There's nothing to debate.

You haven't provided an argument in this thread. I have nothing to defend against.
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Let me try my hand here...

You're wrong!

See I can debate like a progressive too.
 
Unrepresented said:
His position thus far into this thread has been to simply accuse anything involving support of working people through organization to be marxism. He wasn't debating, he was throwing out ad hominem attacks.

There's nothing to debate.

You haven't provided an argument in this thread. I have nothing to defend against.
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This is a tactic he uses for most issues.
 
Mr.Nick said:
Let me try my hand here...

You're wrong!

See I can debate like a progressive too.
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My debate tactics have regressed to match his. I'm officially putting him on ignore, since his level of discourse is bringing down my own. Fair point.
 
Unrepresented said:
My debate tactics have regressed to match his. I'm officially putting him on ignore, since his level of discourse is bringing down my own. Fair point.
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Not when unions have turned into basically pseudo-socialist organizations and are being purposely defended and misrepresented for no other reason other than knee-jerk.
 
Unrepresented said:
His position thus far into this thread has been to simply accuse anything involving support of working people through organization to be marxism. He wasn't debating, he was throwing out ad hominem attacks.

There's nothing to debate.

You haven't provided an argument in this thread. I have nothing to defend against.
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I am not asking you to defend yourself. You position is indefensible.
 
Unrepresented said:
My debate tactics have regressed to match his. I'm officially putting him on ignore, since his level of discourse is bringing down my own. Fair point.
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I am hurt! Hurt I tell you! The Marxist has officially put me on ignore.

I, on the other hand will continue to respond to his nonsense.
 
Misterveritis said:
I am hurt! Hurt I tell you! The Marxist has officially put me on ignore.

I, on the other hand will continue to respond to his nonsense.
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Why?

Honestly, there is no point in telling or even debating. Only the individual can change themselves.

Progressives obviously live in delusionalland and are tyrants both socially and economically (they're actually economic terrorists IMO) however they're going to have to figure that out for themselves..

You could stone them 1000 times in a debate however they will still defend Marx, socialism and communism.....

Progressiveism is a religon - it's Marxism..... They've been brainwashed to believe everyone that thinks outside of their collective box is the enemy...

Marx was the L. Ron Hubbard of the 20th century....
 
Mr.Nick said:
Not when unions have turned into basically pseudo-socialist organizations and are being purposely defended and misrepresented for no other reason other than knee-jerk.
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Organized labor is as "socialist" as organized business. They both use a distribution of people to leverage themselves into better bargaining position. Funny how you only hear the claims of "socialism" being brought against one side. Guess why?
Mr.Nick said:
Why?

Honestly, there is no point in telling or even debating. Only the individual can change themselves.

Progressives obviously live in delusionalland and are tyrants both socially and economically (they're actually economic terrorists IMO) however they're going to have to figure that out for themselves..

You could stone them 1000 times in a debate however they will still defend Marx, socialism and communism.....

Progressiveism is a religon - it's Marxism..... They've been brainwashed to believe everyone that thinks outside of their collective box is the enemy...
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I think that anyone who so casually throws around the term "economic terrorist" is probably more threat to the safety of our economy than any political ideology.

Mr.Nick said:
Marx was the L. Ron Hubbard of the 20th century....
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Karl Heinrich Marx (German pronunciation: [ˈkaɐ̯l ˈhaɪnʀɪç ˈmaɐ̯ks]; 5 May 1818 – 14 March 1883)

Karl Marx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can't even correctly identify the century he lived in, yet you're an expert on the evils of his ideology?
 
Unrepresented said:
Organized labor is as "socialist" as organized business. They both use a distribution of people to leverage themselves into better bargaining position. Funny how you only hear the claims of "socialism" being brought against one side. Guess why?

I think that anyone who so casually throws around the term "economic terrorist" is probably more threat to the safety of our economy than any political ideology.


Karl Heinrich Marx (German pronunciation: [ˈkaɐ̯l ˈhaɪnʀɪç ˈmaɐ̯ks]; 5 May 1818 – 14 March 1883)

Karl Marx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You can't even correctly identify the century he lived in, yet you're an expert on the evils of his ideology?
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I got it - socialists are a victim of capitalism --- well I wasn't expecting that response..

Yeah. I can't identify the 19th century - that is good - at least you're thinking. It's a start tho.
 
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