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Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

I realize that scab friendly states undercut fair paying and safe jobs.

I believe workers' rights should be strengthened nationally to prevent other states from allowing the race to the bottom that we've been seeing for decades now as middle class jobs disappear while corporate profits skyrocket.
Another authoritarian statist reveals himself.
 
Greetings, ocean515. :2wave:

:thumbs: True Democracy in action at your place of business! Let people make their own decisions about how they want to live. I understand that the people in the various cities and towns in Switzerland vote in the middle of their town square on things that affect their daily lives. While they have a central government for national interests that affect everyone, they don't interfere otherwise. And the Swiss people are expected to have guns in every home, and to take recurrent training to stay skilled in the use of same. Even Grannys are sharp shooters, and know how to defend themselves! Would you invade such a country? Hitler opted not to!

Oops, Trick or treaters are here! Beggars's Night has begun...back later.

Beggars Night? LOL. That sounds like fun. Really. I don't think they could pull that off here in sunny SoCal.

I have to tell you, I had great employees at my previous company. Frankly, had they decided to let he union control their future, it would have saddened me. Not because of any financial impact. I was blessed beyond my wildest dreams. What would have saddened me was going that route would have meant the company was not providing the opportunities and rewards I have always felt was part of the reason we were in business.
 
Another authoritarian statist reveals himself.
Advocating that the balance of power between corporate interests and workers' interests be shifted closer to the middle is in everyone's interests.
 
LOL....Texas doesn't give away the state? Why are they one of the top 9 states in the amount of corporate welfare they hand out? Why does Texas consistently rank in the bottom on education spending and healthcare? The answer is contrary to your claims con.
Missouri Is One of the Top States . . . in Corporate Welfare - Show-Me Daily - Show-Me Daily

Interesting and yet expected that you run when challenged and are proven wrong. Only in the liberal world does more spending, more handouts, and bigger govt. equal better state performance. You ignored that California has the highest number of people making minimum wage, has the greatest number in poverty, provides massive handouts to its citizens, and has among the highest taxes in the nation. Wonder why that doesn't concern you and why that is never mentioned when you attack TX?

You see, partisan hacks like you never admit when they are wrong, thus just ignore the responses and in a few days will come back making the same lies over and over again. What is it about liberalism that creates people like you?
 
Afraid so, unless the Census bureau is lying

Fool

The study basically says that using a different set of standards, and including the overpriced housing costs, Californians are living in a higher poverty rate.

I'm all for addressing the unsustainable housing market.
 
Advocating that the balance of power between corporate interests and workers' interests be shifted closer to the middle is in everyone's interests.
I will let my previous statement stand. You have revealed yourself as an authoritarian statist. You cannot alter your character.
 
Lol... what? That's not even remotely true.

It is absolutely, positively, and carved in stone, fact. According to Census Bureau calculations, California is home to the highest poverty in the Nation.

Besides, it's California, it's been run into the ground by liberal/progressives. What else would you expect?
 
There is a reason why Texas ranks near the bottom in education and healthcare spending. They have plenty of free land and corporate welfare to hand out, but cannot fund essential services. You cite one company with good paying jobs. Doesn't change the fact that Texas is #1 in the country (along with Mississippi) in the number of people working for minimum wage.

Having a huge open border with uneducated, unskilled illegals flooding across it wouldn't have anything to do with that, I suppose?
 
You cannot tell Conservative anything. He just ignores facts and makes up so-called facts of his own.

LOL, facts? What facts does an op ed article post. Not exactly sure what your problem is with TX but the reality is I moved here 22 years ago and it was the best move I have ever made. I have been all over the country and there is no better area to raise a family, educate a family, and participate in great conservative values of personal responsibility than in TX. Sorry you don't agree but doubt you have experienced as much as I have in my 67 years.

It is obvious to me that you have no concept as to the role of the govt. and spending more, providing more only creates dependence and that destroys personal responsibility. There is a reason that people are flocking to TX. Maybe one of these days you will figure it out.
 
The study basically says that using a different set of standards, and including the overpriced housing costs, Californians are living in a higher poverty rate.

I'm all for addressing the unsustainable housing market.

LOL.

Different set of standards? They are the adopted set of standards that have been in place for years. Nice try.

I understand it is hard to believe such a union owned, and liberal dominated state such as California can be seen as having created the highest poverty rate in the nation, but I guess it's one of those, "The Truth Hurts" don't it realities
 
As someone who grew up in California, I have watched it get trashed. This state used to be the pride of the nation when Ronald Reagan was governor in the 1960's--the best schools, roads, hospitals, airports, public safety, state parks and beaches, etc. The defense cutbacks at the end of the Cold War hurt employment somewhat, but by far the biggest cause of the mess has been illegal aliens.

They are an enormous net drain on California's economy--just giving all their kids a free K-12 education costs billions every year. And they quickly teach new arrivals the ropes of milking every drop out of the vast government welfare system--local, state, and federal. This involves large-scale fraud that everyone else pays for. But there are so many of these bums who have relatives here that those people stand up for them. And their influence has been felt politically. In about forty years, California has turned from a thriving, fairly conservative state into a bankrupt wreck run by corrupt Democrat politicians.
 
As someone who grew up in California, I have watched it get trashed. This state used to be the pride of the nation when Ronald Reagan was governor in the 1960's--the best schools, roads, hospitals, airports, public safety, state parks and beaches, etc. The defense cutbacks at the end of the Cold War hurt employment somewhat, but by far the biggest cause of the mess has been illegal aliens.

They are an enormous net drain on California's economy--just giving all their kids a free K-12 education costs billions every year. And they quickly teach new arrivals the ropes of milking every drop out of the vast government welfare system--local, state, and federal. This involves large-scale fraud that everyone else pays for. But there are so many of these bums who have relatives here that those people stand up for them. And their influence has been felt politically. In about forty years, California has turned from a thriving, fairly conservative state into a bankrupt wreck run by corrupt Democrat politicians.

Well stated!
 
I will let my previous statement stand. You have revealed yourself as an authoritarian statist. You cannot alter your character.

You're revealed yourself to be content to pigeonholing ideologies and assigning pundit buzzwords rather than actual discourse. Was there a greater point that you had?
 
You're revealed yourself to be content to pigeonholing ideologies and assigning pundit buzzwords rather than actual discourse. Was there a greater point that you had?
It is enough that you have revealed yourself to be an authoritarian statist.
 
I don't know why the entire country hasn't sent all our jobs to China. That seems to make the GOP very happy. More money for the top 1%.

Screw the American middle class worker. The Chinese will do it for half the price and live off rice.

To me, there is an "us" and a "them."

Us, believes that a person who works a 40 hour week deserves a living wage, health benefits, educate their children without signing their life away for student loans, (and an occasional trip to Disney.)

"Them," believes we don't deserve squat and should be grateful for the crumbs that slip through the cracks of the tables of the rich.
 
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I don't know why the entire country hasn't sent all our jobs to China. That seems to make the GOP very happy. More money for the top 1%.

Screw the American middle class worker. The Chinese will do it for half the price and live off rice.

To me, there is an "us" and a "them."

Us, believes that a person who works a 40 hour week deserves a living wage, health benefits, educate their children without signing their life away for student loans, (and an occasional trip to Disney.)

"Them," believes we don't deserve squat and should be grateful for the crumbs that slip through the cracks of the tables of the rich.
Radical left wing kooks do not understand that one is paid based on one's value to the company. If a radical left wing kook wanted more pay that radical left wing kook would have to learn a skill that has some value. Don't you agree?
 
I don't know why the entire country hasn't sent all our jobs to China. That seems to make the GOP very happy. More money for the top 1%.

Screw the American middle class worker. The Chinese will do it for half the price and live off rice.

To me, there is an "us" and a "them."

Us, believes that a person who works a 40 hour week deserves a living wage, health benefits, educate their children without signing their life away for student loans, (and an occasional trip to Disney.)

"Them," believes we don't deserve squat and should be grateful for the crumbs that slip through the cracks of the tables of the rich.

Interesting.

You posted this on a thread that accurately depicts what unions and liberal/progressives polices did to screw middle class workers, and yet you blame the challenges the middle class faces exclusively on the GOP.

Captain, I'm thinking a demotion is in the offing.
 
You see, partisan hacks like you never admit when they are wrong, thus just ignore the responses and in a few days will come back making the same lies over and over again.

If you changed the highlighted word to ME....you would be 100% on point.
 
As someone who grew up in California, I have watched it get trashed. This state used to be the pride of the nation when Ronald Reagan was governor in the 1960's--the best schools, roads, hospitals, airports, public safety, state parks and beaches, etc. The defense cutbacks at the end of the Cold War hurt employment somewhat, but by far the biggest cause of the mess has been illegal aliens.

They are an enormous net drain on California's economy--just giving all their kids a free K-12 education costs billions every year. And they quickly teach new arrivals the ropes of milking every drop out of the vast government welfare system--local, state, and federal. This involves large-scale fraud that everyone else pays for. But there are so many of these bums who have relatives here that those people stand up for them. And their influence has been felt politically. In about forty years, California has turned from a thriving, fairly conservative state into a bankrupt wreck run by corrupt Democrat politicians.

If you really have lived in California, then you would know that the decline in all the things that you stated:

the best schools, roads, hospitals, airports, public safety, state parks and beaches, etc...all correlate to the passage of prop 13 which has reduced the amount of money collected by the state to pay for those things over the course of the last 4 decades. I know it is easy to try to say it is all due to "illegals", the reality is that it is related to a number of things, but prop 13 has played a key role in what the state is able to fund.
 
Radical left wing kooks do not understand that one is paid based on one's value to the company. If a radical left wing kook wanted more pay that radical left wing kook would have to learn a skill that has some value. Don't you agree?

Many a rightwinger's jobs have been sent to China too. If you are cool with that, you are one of "them."
 
It is enough that you have revealed yourself to be an authoritarian statist.
A) My position on the political compass is far from authoritarian. Empowering workers doesn't make you authoritarian.

B) You've posted nothing of substance so far, troll.
 
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