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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....Texas doesn't give away the state? Why are they one of the top 9 states in the amount of corporate welfare they hand out? Why does Texas consistently rank in the bottom on education spending and healthcare? The answer is contrary to your claims con.
    Missouri Is One of the Top States . . . in Corporate Welfare - Show-Me Daily - Show-Me Daily
    Your economic ignorance is staggering. You apparently would rather have one person paying a thousand dollars in taxes vs. three people paying 350 each? The multiplier effect has no place in the liberal world

    Do you think businesses like having sales on their products? If everyone who comes into the store only buys the sales item the company ends up losing a lot of money. That doesn't happen for once in the store people tend to by more than just the sales items and that principle works even better at the state level. Businesses paying lower taxes creates new taxpayers for the state so the net benefit was a big plus. One of these days the lightbulb is going to go off in that head of yours.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Thread about californa: BASH ******** TEXAS!

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually California has rebounded quite well now that we have a Democratic Governor.
    LOL

    Thanks my friend, I can always use a laugh. Ask Jerry how many billions they have yet to pay back from the various funds they raided to balance the budget. Or, you could ask how his state employee pension reform program worked out.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Yes, most people don't look past their bellies and undermine the whole process by readily allowing themselves to be exploited.
    Or.. In this case.. They chased a company away that was ready to pay good wages and good benefits all because that company didn't want a stacked deck, card check election. Instead, leaving people with a empty belly rather than a belly that could have been full with a good job. Again.. Those unions sure aren't the brightest.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Thank you very much for thinking I was unfamiliar with the proper usage of the word terrorize. As a Union hack who refers to temporary workers a vile scabs, I'm sure you're quite familiar with its proper usage.

    Yet, let's not kid ourselves, the only reason card check is used is to remove the privacy an election provides. As you no doubt know, pro-union forces are very interested in learning who is standing in the way of their objective.

    Sorry, but I've been one of those people on the other side of the table listening to the rhetoric. Thankfully, my employees understood what they would be giving up should a union organizing attempt be successful. As such, the unions scare tactics were never successful. And my employees were the ones who decided that.
    Greetings, ocean515.

    True Democracy in action at your place of business! Let people make their own decisions about how they want to live. I understand that the people in the various cities and towns in Switzerland vote in the middle of their town square on things that affect their daily lives. While they have a central government for national interests that affect everyone, they don't interfere otherwise. And the Swiss people are expected to have guns in every home, and to take recurrent training to stay skilled in the use of same. Even Grannys are sharp shooters, and know how to defend themselves! Would you invade such a country? Hitler opted not to!

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    "Only business owners should have a say in what is fair for the workers they employ."
    No. Employment is a mutual agreement on the terms of that employment. If I offer you less than you feel you are worth, then you are free to go work elsewhere. That is how a free people interact within a free society. But I get that many people--including you, probably--aren't all that interested in a free, rights respecting society.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Or.. In this case.. They chased a company away that was ready to pay good wages and good benefits all because that company didn't want a stacked deck, card check election. Instead, leaving people with a empty belly rather than a belly that could have been full with a good job. Again.. Those unions sure aren't the brightest.
    From the link.

    They are using California’s environmental laws as a pretense to put leverage on the company to get what they want,” Kinkisharyo spokesman Coby King told FoxNews.com. “It’s unfortunate when groups that don’t care about the well-being of the environment use the laws to delay, and even kill, good business development.”
    Using the law to get what they want? The hell you say...

    My God, it's not like, business would ever use laws (that their lobbyists write) to their advantage, right?

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    The job is worth what someone is willing to do it for. As for this specific company, they werne't even against the union.. They were against the stacked deck of a card check election and they claim they pay a decent salary and haven't had employment issues in the past. So.. Maybe not so much.
    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Or.. In this case.. They chased a company away that was ready to pay good wages and good benefits all because that company didn't want a stacked deck, card check election. Instead, leaving people with a empty belly rather than a belly that could have been full with a good job. Again.. Those unions sure aren't the brightest.
    1) You're reading like a regurgitated talking point.

    2) Card check is a simple majority rules vote, the same as any other union vote with the exception of skipping the formality of a secret ballot. It's not different math, it's not different voters. It's just public. There's nothing stacked about public voting, our congress does it on every bill. If it's good enough for congress, it's probably good enough for the rest of us.
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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    1) You're reading like a regurgitated talking point.

    2) Card check is a simple majority rules vote, the same as any other union vote with the exception of skipping the formality of a secret ballot. It's not different math, it's not different voters. It's just public. There's nothing stacked about public voting, our congress does it on every bill. If it's good enough for congress, it's probably good enough for the rest of us.
    Then the unions should be happy to allow the vote go through without it.. But, they won't because it is different.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I don't see many Californians packing up to move to the armpit of the country called Texas. I think thats just another of your pipedreams Conservative. But be careful what you ask for. It Californians truly do move there...they will speed up the shift of Texas to a blue state...and good luck winning national elections when that happens.
    Careful what you call Texas! It is not the armpit of the country, and there is a reason why California businesses are leaving to relocate to Texas. They are not welcome there. Governor Brown has plans to repay 28 billion in debt, which leaves over a hundred billion more to go. Good luck getting the illegals jobs so they can contribute rather than say gimme.

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