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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I find it telling that you consider a Murdock owned newspaper to fall under the umbrella of "middle of the road" while casting aspersions on other sources.
    I find it telling that you DON'T consider the WSJ middle of the road.

    I read through your source and it is so full of lies and holes, it was appalling.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    "What the union really wanted, according to Kinkisharyo officials, was clearance to organize the plant without any interference from the company."

    Workers have a right to organize.
    Yes, but they don't have right to do so without resistance from the company and they don't have the right to chase businesses away if they don't get their way.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That statement only confirms what I said before. As long as corporations are able to influence politics such that there is a large pool of hungry workers that will work for peanuts, they need not pay what an employee is worth. They can pay as little as possible, knowing that there are not a lot of options for the worker to go elsewhere.

    This is why free land giveaways by states like Texas, do not benefit the worker or the state. Corporate welfare rarely "trickles down" much beyond the pocketbook of the CEO or shareholder
    This answer tells me that you realize you are already being paid what you are worth.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    "Authoritarian statists might be unteachable. Do you believe the states should compel businesses to have unions? Should states intercede on behalf of unions to tip the scales against businesses? Or should the worthless, parasitic unions be allowed to die?"
    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    If they're worthless, why do you fear them?
    What gives you the impression that I fear unions?

    You can't fear something that is innocuous, so clearly you fear them for what they produce: better paid, safer employees.
    I have few feelings for parasites.

    Balancing the protection of workers with the interests of business should be a state function. Unions serve that function.
    See. You are an authoritarian statist. It was obvious from your first post.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    I realize that scab friendly states undercut fair paying and safe jobs.

    I believe workers' rights should be strengthened nationally to prevent other states from allowing the race to the bottom that we've been seeing for decades now as middle class jobs disappear while corporate profits skyrocket.
    Of course you do. Rather than admitting you support policies that make Atlas shrug and leave your union asses, you want to try to force them and stay and suffer the rest of your bad ideas...

    Your lot will NEVER learn.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "Authoritarian statists might be unteachable. Do you believe the states should compel businesses to have unions? Should states intercede on behalf of unions to tip the scales against businesses? Or should the worthless, parasitic unions be allowed to die?"

    What gives you the impression that I fear unions?


    I have few feelings for parasites.


    See. You are an authoritarian statist. It was obvious from your first post.
    Let me know when you're capable of having an intellectual discussion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Of course you do. Rather than admitting you support policies that make Atlas shrug and leave your union asses, you want to try to force them and stay and suffer the rest of your bad ideas...

    Your lot will NEVER learn.
    Atlas didn't shrug, it found someone willing to accept a low ball offer. There's a sucker born every minute.
    "The side that stays within its fortifications is beaten." ~Napoleon

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Let me know when you're capable of having an intellectual discussion.
    It is okay. I do not believe you are up it.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Let me know when you're capable of having an intellectual discussion.


    As if personal attacks constituted intellectual discussion. I'm ready for one, let me know when you have more than just insults.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    Atlas didn't shrug, it found someone willing to accept a low ball offer. There's a sucker born every minute.
    You clearly do not understand the meaning of the expression.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Deflect all you want. Radical left kooks do not understand that they are responsible for the amount of value they have to a company. Radical left kooks disengage their failures to offer anything of value from what they believe they should be paid.

    I do not know why radical left kooks never learn. I suppose if a radical left kook had any brains he would not be a radical left kook. What do you think?
    What do I think?

    I think much like a lot of folks around here do. I think you are a troll with no substance without a civil bone in your body. But what does that have to do with anything?

    Hey, you asked.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    This answer tells me that you realize you are already being paid what you are worth.
    I'm happy with what I am paid. I love my job and feel very fortunate. However, I also realize that as a professional, I have many more options than the average worker. The fallacy of the argument that people like you make is that you assume that tax cuts and benefits to the wealthy will "trickle down" and benefit everyone. The truth is, very little actually ever trickles down.
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