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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    As someone who grew up in California, I have watched it get trashed. This state used to be the pride of the nation when Ronald Reagan was governor in the 1960's--the best schools, roads, hospitals, airports, public safety, state parks and beaches, etc. The defense cutbacks at the end of the Cold War hurt employment somewhat, but by far the biggest cause of the mess has been illegal aliens.

    They are an enormous net drain on California's economy--just giving all their kids a free K-12 education costs billions every year. And they quickly teach new arrivals the ropes of milking every drop out of the vast government welfare system--local, state, and federal. This involves large-scale fraud that everyone else pays for. But there are so many of these bums who have relatives here that those people stand up for them. And their influence has been felt politically. In about forty years, California has turned from a thriving, fairly conservative state into a bankrupt wreck run by corrupt Democrat politicians.
    Well stated!

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I will let my previous statement stand. You have revealed yourself as an authoritarian statist. You cannot alter your character.
    You're revealed yourself to be content to pigeonholing ideologies and assigning pundit buzzwords rather than actual discourse. Was there a greater point that you had?
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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
    You're revealed yourself to be content to pigeonholing ideologies and assigning pundit buzzwords rather than actual discourse. Was there a greater point that you had?
    It is enough that you have revealed yourself to be an authoritarian statist.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    I don't know why the entire country hasn't sent all our jobs to China. That seems to make the GOP very happy. More money for the top 1%.

    Screw the American middle class worker. The Chinese will do it for half the price and live off rice.

    To me, there is an "us" and a "them."

    Us, believes that a person who works a 40 hour week deserves a living wage, health benefits, educate their children without signing their life away for student loans, (and an occasional trip to Disney.)

    "Them," believes we don't deserve squat and should be grateful for the crumbs that slip through the cracks of the tables of the rich.
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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I don't know why the entire country hasn't sent all our jobs to China. That seems to make the GOP very happy. More money for the top 1%.

    Screw the American middle class worker. The Chinese will do it for half the price and live off rice.

    To me, there is an "us" and a "them."

    Us, believes that a person who works a 40 hour week deserves a living wage, health benefits, educate their children without signing their life away for student loans, (and an occasional trip to Disney.)

    "Them," believes we don't deserve squat and should be grateful for the crumbs that slip through the cracks of the tables of the rich.
    Radical left wing kooks do not understand that one is paid based on one's value to the company. If a radical left wing kook wanted more pay that radical left wing kook would have to learn a skill that has some value. Don't you agree?

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I don't know why the entire country hasn't sent all our jobs to China. That seems to make the GOP very happy. More money for the top 1%.

    Screw the American middle class worker. The Chinese will do it for half the price and live off rice.

    To me, there is an "us" and a "them."

    Us, believes that a person who works a 40 hour week deserves a living wage, health benefits, educate their children without signing their life away for student loans, (and an occasional trip to Disney.)

    "Them," believes we don't deserve squat and should be grateful for the crumbs that slip through the cracks of the tables of the rich.
    Interesting.

    You posted this on a thread that accurately depicts what unions and liberal/progressives polices did to screw middle class workers, and yet you blame the challenges the middle class faces exclusively on the GOP.

    Captain, I'm thinking a demotion is in the offing.

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You see, partisan hacks like you never admit when they are wrong, thus just ignore the responses and in a few days will come back making the same lies over and over again.
    If you changed the highlighted word to ME....you would be 100% on point.
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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    As someone who grew up in California, I have watched it get trashed. This state used to be the pride of the nation when Ronald Reagan was governor in the 1960's--the best schools, roads, hospitals, airports, public safety, state parks and beaches, etc. The defense cutbacks at the end of the Cold War hurt employment somewhat, but by far the biggest cause of the mess has been illegal aliens.

    They are an enormous net drain on California's economy--just giving all their kids a free K-12 education costs billions every year. And they quickly teach new arrivals the ropes of milking every drop out of the vast government welfare system--local, state, and federal. This involves large-scale fraud that everyone else pays for. But there are so many of these bums who have relatives here that those people stand up for them. And their influence has been felt politically. In about forty years, California has turned from a thriving, fairly conservative state into a bankrupt wreck run by corrupt Democrat politicians.
    If you really have lived in California, then you would know that the decline in all the things that you stated:

    the best schools, roads, hospitals, airports, public safety, state parks and beaches, etc...all correlate to the passage of prop 13 which has reduced the amount of money collected by the state to pay for those things over the course of the last 4 decades. I know it is easy to try to say it is all due to "illegals", the reality is that it is related to a number of things, but prop 13 has played a key role in what the state is able to fund.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Radical left wing kooks do not understand that one is paid based on one's value to the company. If a radical left wing kook wanted more pay that radical left wing kook would have to learn a skill that has some value. Don't you agree?
    Many a rightwinger's jobs have been sent to China too. If you are cool with that, you are one of "them."

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    Re: Union Demands send Firm and jobs packing from California

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It is enough that you have revealed yourself to be an authoritarian statist.
    A) My position on the political compass is far from authoritarian. Empowering workers doesn't make you authoritarian.

    B) You've posted nothing of substance so far, troll.
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