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    UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Chapel Hill, North Carolina (CNN) -- For 18 years, thousands of students at the prestigious University of North Carolina took fake "paper classes," and advisers funneled athletes into the program to keep them eligible, according to a scathing independent report released Wednesday.
    "These counselors saw the paper classes and the artificially high grades they yielded as key to helping some student-athletes remain eligible," Kenneth Wainstein wrote in his report. He conducted an eight-month investigation into the scandal, which has plagued the university for nearly five years.
    Four employees have been fired and five more disciplined because of their roles. One other former employee had honorary status removed, Chancellor Carol Folt said Wednesday.
    Wainstein is the former federal prosecutor hired by UNC to independently investigate the academic fraud brought to light by CNN, the Raleigh News & Observer and other media outlets

    In all, the report estimates, at least 3,100 students took the paper classes, but adds the number "very likely falls far short of the true number."
    For the first time since the scandal first came to light five years ago, UNC admitted that the wrongdoing went further than academics and involved its athletic programs.
    In fact, Folt said, "it was a university issue."
    A stellar reputation comes crashing down
    UNC has long been a place where it was believed that athletics and academics went hand in hand. It has enjoyed a stellar reputation, producing basketball greats such as coach Dean Smith and Michael Jordan.
    Now, that reputation has been stained.
    UNC athletics report finds 18 years of academic fraud - CNN.com

    If this doesn't get a death penalty, nothing else will. Unbelievable.

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    According to the report, one former head football coach, John Bunting, admitted to knowing of the paper classes and his successor, Butch Davis, also admitted some knowledge. Current men's basketball coach Roy Williams is steadfast that he did not know, Wainstein said.
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    About 60 other schools have done essentially the same thing.

    A high percentage of college football players at the big schools can barely read and write beyond a fifth-grade level.

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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    It starts in high school. My son played wide reciever. He came home or got a mid term report he had a D in a class. I told him foot ball was over. The next day it was a C+. Sports are a big problem in our schools today. And I love college football.
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    About 60 other schools have done essentially the same thing.

    A high percentage of college football players at the big schools can barely read and write beyond a fifth-grade level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    It starts in high school. My son played wide reciever. He came home or got a mid term report he had a D in a class. I told him foot ball was over. The next day it was a C+. Sports are a big problem in our schools today. And I love college football.
    Look at Jameis Winston. Now, try to call him a college student with a straight face.

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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Look at Jameis Winston. Now, try to call him a college student with a straight face.
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    It starts in high school. My son played wide reciever. He came home or got a mid term report he had a D in a class. I told him foot ball was over. The next day it was a C+. Sports are a big problem in our schools today. And I love college football.
    Sports are not the problem, it's school administration giving the pass to allowing these kids to stay idiots and neglect their education.

    If more parents did what you did and teachers affirmed this along the way, it'd be a different situation entirely.

    It's laziness and irresponsibility on the part of both the players and the school administration.

    Get that in order and everything will fall into place. Not that it will be an overnight thing without some shock to the current culture, but nothing drawn out, doesn't need to be.
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    The whole question boils down to this:

    Should important colleges be primarily for students who have the mental capacity and drive to do the work---and should therefore only allow intelligent, motivated students to play in their important sporting events?

    Or, should important colleges allow any student with a least an IQ of 70 (just above moron) to stay in as long as they will win them games?
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Sports are not the problem, it's school administration giving the pass to allowing these kids to stay idiots and neglect their education.

    If more parents did what you did and teachers affirmed this along the way, it'd be a different situation entirely.

    It's laziness and irresponsibility on the part of both the players and the school administration.

    Get that in order and everything will fall into place. Not that it will be an overnight thing without some shock to the current culture, but nothing drawn out, doesn't need to be.
    Football is the biggest source of revenue for these big schools. It lowers the cost for school for everybody else.

    Doesn't make it right, I agree, but that's the reason.

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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    I often hear this argument, but I am just not so sure why college costs so much. One of the schools I teach at cost the students 35- 38,000 annually to attend. I have 10-15 in my class. I dont make that much. They hvae 8-10 professors annually, mabye a few more. We have some nice buildings and utilities etc, but really, that much money and they still need football to pay for it?
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    Football is the biggest source of revenue for these big schools. It lowers the cost for school for everybody else.

    Doesn't make it right, I agree, but that's the reason.
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

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    UNC athletics report finds 18 years of academic fraud - CNN.com

    If this doesn't get a death penalty, nothing else will. Unbelievable.

    From the article...
    IMO, these are the kinds of issues accreditors should more closely scrutinize, as they impact the core purpose of academic institutions.

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