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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    He doesn't need one. For those of us that have attended state universities it's pretty obvious.

    I honestly don't know how the atheletes in my classes passed. They were never there.
    I understand the idea. But I do need a link. It's possible they had tutors.
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Do you have a link to substantiate this?
    Yes, it's called ESPN. Do you think half that Auburn squad could legitimately pass Calculus? LOL

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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The " idiot athletes " were given the short end of the stick years before they revieved their scholarships.

    They're only " idiots " because they've been conned out of a education.

    And not by the schools either.
    They are idiots because they are stupid ass jocks who couldn't add if you gave them all the tutors in the world. Oh they got cheated, huh? Our education system is broken, but all those other folk who can't play football are fine, huh? We don't owe them jobs or college education full of no classes. Idiot athletes are not the cause of the problems, true. That's the money that gets brought in because of athletics and the perversion of academia. But its not like the Universities are blameless in their support and proliferation of idiot athletes.
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I often hear this argument, but I am just not so sure why college costs so much. One of the schools I teach at cost the students 35- 38,000 annually to attend. I have 10-15 in my class. I dont make that much. They hvae 8-10 professors annually, mabye a few more. We have some nice buildings and utilities etc, but really, that much money and they still need football to pay for it?
    Well, if you're students are paying $38K to attend, then they don't need the football team. Most schools aren't that pricey.

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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yes, it's called ESPN. Do you think half that Auburn squad could legitimately pass Calculus? LOL
    Calculus and trig aren't needed for most degrees. That's very difficult for most people.

    Again, you can speculate all you want. You got nothin.
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Calculus and trig aren't needed for most degrees. That's very difficult for most people.

    Again, you can speculate all you want. You got nothin.
    Yes, scholars adorning the field in all directions. Please. Half these guys could convert 3/4 into a percentage.

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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yes, scholars adorning the field in all directions. Please. Half these guys could convert 3/4 into a percentage.
    You have nothing.
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    The majority of college athletic departments lose money. Football will often make money, men's basketball can, but it makes less, and only 3 schools in the country last I checked even so much as break even on a baseball team. Every single other sport loses money for the AD. The ones most hurt by these types of scandals are the students who weren't expected to exceed and therefore didn't, and those who did exceed who now have the value of their education impacted (though if they excelled while being a student-athlete, they are probably doing just fine for themselves just by nature of the works habits it forced them to develop).

    Honestly, until we start setting and really enforcing the expectation that these high-profile players really be student athletes it won't get better. If universities as a group cared, this scandal would impact UNC's accreditation and NCAA membership.

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