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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's proliferated through the system and the system moved to protect and proliferate it. The Universities making fake classes and trying to get idiot athletes through the system to maintain their funding and athletic competitiveness are part of the problem..


    The " idiot athletes " were given the short end of the stick years before they revieved their scholarships.

    They're only " idiots " because they've been conned out of a education.

    And not by the schools either.
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    You think this could turn into a race-related ****storm?

    Sure, it has all the potential in the world to grow into a huge narrative based on race.

    College's start cutting scholarships based on REAL academic results and that will expose the real reasons why these students need to be baby-sat academically.

    Education or lack of is a cultural issue that starts in the homes of the student's that recieve these scholarships.

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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!

    UNC isn't the only school doing this by a long shot.

    Vince Young ( University of Texas ) scored a 6 on the Wonderlick Aptitude test.
    It's happened all over for a long time. There as a DP discussion on this a few months back and it's just common sense. These guys are traveling all over the place on road games 1/2 the year and sometimes longer with the bowl games. They're carrying a full load of credits AND making the grades cut? Take Michigan Wolverines football.... how many times in 2013 were players benched because of academic probation (which by the way is lower than a cumulative 2.0)? I couldn't find anything... and I think it happens not not just as UNC but everywhere college football is big money.... get these kids in classes where either they can pay someone to write their papers for them (also big business on campuses) or they get a class they need to show up once to hand in a 1 pager with basically their name on it - easy 4.0.



    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's all about the money, the NCAA has caused academics to fall behind sports in academia. Though that seems like a fundamental problem to me.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    UNC athletics report finds 18 years of academic fraud - CNN.com

    If this doesn't get a death penalty, nothing else will. Unbelievable.

    From the article...
    I can only assume the data only goes back 18 years, then.
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    I think that the NCAA needs to change the eligibility rules for athletes. Have a process wherein the athletes are required to complete a certain level of academic proficiency before they are allowed to compete and have that assessment come from the NCAA, not the schools. Basically, we need to move from the idea that competing is a right based on your ability to it being something that you EARN based on your academics. I'd start with no more Freshmen competing or traveling and they would be required to maintain a C+ average, with no failing classes and no more than one D. Then the NCAA should test the student athletes annually on what they learned the prior year and if they fail, they don't play. Assessing the student athlete's academic qualifications MUST be separated from the schools themselves.
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Typical frat party?
    Or jubilation.
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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's happened all over for a long time. There as a DP discussion on this a few months back and it's just common sense. These guys are traveling all over the place on road games 1/2 the year and sometimes longer with the bowl games. They're carrying a full load of credits AND making the grades cut? Take Michigan Wolverines football.... how many times in 2013 were players benched because of academic probation (which by the way is lower than a cumulative 2.0)? I couldn't find anything... and I think it happens not not just as UNC but everywhere college football is big money.... get these kids in classes where either they can pay someone to write their papers for them (also big business on campuses) or they get a class they need to show up once to hand in a 1 pager with basically their name on it - easy 4.0.


    I think allot of these kids simply don't have the aptitude to begin with.

    Whether they come from underperforming schools or their grades were padded in High school they just dont academically belong in College.

    There is going to be a huge back lash if the Colleges start holding these kids to meet a academic standard on their own.

    And its not going to come from the kids themselves or even the Colleges.

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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    It starts in high school. My son played wide reciever. He came home or got a mid term report he had a D in a class. I told him foot ball was over. The next day it was a C+. Sports are a big problem in our schools today. And I love college football.
    Another problem I see here in high school is there are many times 3 meets or games a week for soccer, cross country, or track and field. How do these kids find time to study with all that bus time? I know I had a hard time finding the time in high school. Think how much the schools could save in fuel costs by having one meet or game a week.

    We all bitch about lower performance than schools in other countries but we do things to sabotage it. In many European schools sports take a back seat ro academics.

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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Sports=money.
    Follow the money.

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    Re: UNC report finds 18 years of academic fraud to keep athletes playing

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Do you have a link to substantiate this?
    He doesn't need one. For those of us that have attended state universities it's pretty obvious.

    I honestly don't know how the atheletes in my classes passed. They were never there.

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