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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Why did you put quotes around "quick" decision? If you feel the need to put words in my mouth to make your case then you have a weak case.
    Because I was referencing your specific use of "quick" in talking about how "quick to assume" you accused him of being that "these blackwater guys" were murderers.

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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The military is subject to the UCMJ, because soldiers have a right to be judged by a jury of their peers. Civilians can't define where the line lies, nor when it has been crossed.

    There are examples in every war of excesses. The political climate of the period defines what is a war crime and what isn't, which is very wrong and unjust. That's why charging someone with murder, especially 1st degree murder, in a war is as stupid as handing out speeding tickets at The Daytona 500.
    These Blackwater mercenaries were NOT members of the US military. They were paid civilian mercenaries. Therefore they do not have the right to have a jury composed of military servicemen, since military servicemen are NOT their peers, thank God.
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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    You can be anti-mercenary (because that is what these morons are) and still be pro US being in Iraq.

    All those contractor companies were evil from the start, looking for profit, no loyalty whatsoever to the US. Let companies hire those crooks, not the military.

    Iraq for Sale: War Profiteers, watch it some time. There are some ex-mercenaries there giving their perspective on the ****tiness of the companies.
    Fine but that is a good question. Were anti mercenaries on the jury?

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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Because I was referencing your specific use of "quick" in talking about how "quick to assume" you accused him of being that "these blackwater guys" were murderers.
    If you don't put quotes around words I never said we can have a better conversation, thank you.

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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    As I said you had these Blackwater guys convicted in your mind from the beginning
    Dana's been here since 2007...do you have evidence to back this claim up? Or are you proclaiming to be a mind reader? Or are you just guessing and stating an opinion and acting like it's fact because of your overly inflated value you place on your own opinion?

    It would be absolutely accurate if you wanted to say that Dana is baised and negative towards mercenary forces used in a war zone...that is actually verifiable based on his past statements. But I've seen nothing of him articulating that he believed these gentleman to be guilty any time prior to the post in question that occured AFTER they were found guilty.

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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    I'd like to know how many of the convicted Black Water guys are combat veterans.
    Seeing how they were operating in a combat zone, I'd say all of them are.
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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    If you don't put quotes around words I never said we can have a better conversation, thank you.
    ...wait, are you seriously suggesting you never said "quick", "quick to assume" or "these blackwater guys" (the three words/phrases I "put quotes around")?

    Do you...do you know that this forum logs all your posts and there's a quote function, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Are you as quick to assume the cop is a murderer as you are these Blackwater guys?
    last I checked, you are "lifeisshort", yes? Then I didn't put quotes around words you never said.

    The above post is you accusing Dana of being "quick to assume" that the black water guys are murders, and asking if he's as "quick to assume" the cop in Fergeson is one as well.

    The assumption Dana was so "quick" came SEVEN years after the initial action, after a full investigation and an entire court case. That, apparently to you, is a "quick" assumption

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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Dana's been here since 2007...do you have evidence to back this claim up? Or are you proclaiming to be a mind reader? Or are you just guessing and stating an opinion and acting like it's fact because of your overly inflated value you place on your own opinion?

    It would be absolutely accurate if you wanted to say that Dana is baised and negative towards mercenary forces used in a war zone...that is actually verifiable based on his past statements. But I've seen nothing of him articulating that he believed these gentleman to be guilty any time prior to the post in question that occured AFTER they were found guilty.
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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    I'd like to know how many of the convicted Black Water guys are combat veterans.
    All of them are technically combat veterans. Three of the four did actual tours (as opposed to just being in the military during a war).

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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    You can be anti-mercenary (because that is what these morons are) and still be pro US being in Iraq.

    All those contractor companies were evil from the start, looking for profit, no loyalty whatsoever to the US. Let companies hire those crooks, not the military.

    Iraq for Sale: War Profiteers, watch it some time. There are some ex-mercenaries there giving their perspective on the ****tiness of the companies.
    They're American citizens working for The United States government. They don't fit the description of a mercenary.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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