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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    The difference is that the US has a very good legal system firmly in place while Iraq is a complete mess in every way and turning these guys over to them would be a travesty.
    We turned Saddam over to them. That seemed to go ok.
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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

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    As I thought, you think we have it coming. For A Canadian you seem a bit right of center but when all is said and done you are at root a Canadian and as such hold animosity towards America. Here we are calling that the Lilliputian complex and it is not just Canadians but countries all over the world that suffer this psychological condition. You may want to label this "dismissive victimhood" but it is just the reality of being the worlds superpower and I would rather be Gulliver than a Lilliputian.
    It has nothing to do with being the worlds super power. It has to do with the actions we have taken. Tell me, can you tell me the last time that the US was at peace? IE: Not in a war? Here's a list to help ya.
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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    The difference is that the US has a very good legal system firmly in place while Iraq is a complete mess in every way and turning these guys over to them would be a travesty.
    What kind of court system they have is not relevant. All you're doing is making excuses. They did the crime there, they face the consequences there.
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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    The contractors are protected under the US-Iraq status of forces agreement like soldiers. I don't agree with this, but I get it. Companies should not be operating like this is War Inc.
    Tell Obama that.

    "Earlier this week Stars and Stripes, the Pentagon-run newspaper and website, posted an article calling for contractors to fight ISIS and provide other services in Iraq.
    The notice stated that during the initial 12-month contract, they would focus on training management, public affairs, logistics, personnel management, communications, planning and operations, infrastructure management, intelligence, and executive development."

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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    We turned Saddam over to them. That seemed to go ok.
    Yes we gladly threw him to the wolves. It was like "give him a fair trial and then hang him". That would not be the "justice" I would like to see for the Blackwater guys though.

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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What kind of court system they have is not relevant. All you're doing is making excuses. They did the crime there, they face the consequences there.
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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Tell Obama that.

    "Earlier this week Stars and Stripes, the Pentagon-run newspaper and website, posted an article calling for contractors to fight ISIS and provide other services in Iraq.
    The notice stated that during the initial 12-month contract, they would focus on training management, public affairs, logistics, personnel management, communications, planning and operations, infrastructure management, intelligence, and executive development."
    I hear you on that. I am not exactly a fan of our foreign policy. We have an military. We spend a lot of money on that military. Use them. Private contractors should not be the face of our presence and help in the ME.
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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I hear you on that. I am not exactly a fan of our foreign policy. We have an military. We spend a lot of money on that military. Use them. Private contractors should not be the face of our presence and help in the ME.
    It is a way of having boots on the ground somewhat covertly and retaining plausible deniability.

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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    It is a way of having boots on the ground somewhat covertly and retaining plausible deniability.
    Disingenuous to everyone. That's politics and not a solution.
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    Re: Jury: Ex-Blackwater contractors guilty in 'outrageous' Nusoor Square shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    They have the same rights in that country as everyone else in that country. Just because you're a US citizen does not mean that you have the same rights as a US citizen in anyone else's country. You obey the law of the land in the country that you are in and suffer the consequences of that country if you don't.

    Lets put it this way. If a country that someone else was a citizen of allowed "honor killings" should that person be allowed to do the same thing on US soil? Hell no. And I know you wouldn't agree to that either. You'd tell that other country where to stick their laws and demand that person be tried on US soil under US laws. And you'd be right to. What happened with these people is no different.
    You do if you're working for the United States government. That protection is probably in their contract. I know I wouldn't sign a contract without out it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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