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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It was a lie, that's all. Whether lies are 'serious' or not depends a lot on what we expect from our politicians.
    OK, doesn't rise above, "Huh, that's interesting, whats on TV?" for me, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Or got job based on her record at two outstanding law schools, and productive scholarship all along the way. Possibly....



    I do agree with that!



    Yes, she answered a direct question - have you been treated differently because you're a woman - "Yes." Suspicious!
    As to her job, that was my point. She has earned her position no matter how she got it.

    Her last claim, the harassment, is an unsubstantiated claim, and, IMO, if you make claims, particulary harassment claims, you should be prepared to back them up. She is unwilling to do that.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    As to her job, that was my point. She has earned her position no matter how she got it.
    We agree, but it's curious you include the weasel words, "no matter how she got it." Based on her record, seems clear she earned her position, period.

    Her last claim, the harassment, is an unsubstantiated claim, and, IMO, if you make claims, particulary harassment claims, you should be prepared to back them up. She is unwilling to do that.
    Guess I'll have to do this again. Here's my rough transcript. Where does Warren make any claim even approaching "harassment?"

    Question: Have you had any similar experiences, of being treated differently because you're a woman by your colleagues in the Senate?
    Warren: Yes.
    Q: Can you elaborate?
    W: Nope?
    Q: I'm not asking you to name names...
    W: I've said all I'm going to say.
    Q: Surprising to you?
    W: I wish it was, but it's hard to change these big, male dominated institutions. What I am very happy about is there are now enough women in the U.S. Senate to begin to change that place, and I just think that's powerfully important.
    Q: But if a US Senator is treated differently than her colleagues?
    W:...if you don't have a seat at the table, you're probably on the menu... So it's important that we have women in the United States Senate, strong women, and women who are there to help advance an agenda important to women...
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It's pretty funny no one actually quotes Warren's claims.... What part of "this" do you have a hard time believing happened?

    What's also hilarious is right wingers coming to the defense of Senators that in any other context they'd condemn without giving it a second thought as a group of mostly corrupt, spoiled, arrogant a&&holes. It's the funniest thread I've read in some time.
    What part of "this"? Gee, well maybe you could try and be a little more specific. Or make any sense whatsoever.

    Let me clear it up for you, if you weren't able to get it from my post. Anything that comes out her mouth, that's what I don't believe. And that's a bit of a stretch to say I am defending someone because Elizabeth Warren is a lying sac'o crap. I'm not defending any of the other filth that runs the Senate, make no mistake about that.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    What part of "this"? Gee, well maybe you could try and be a little more specific. Or make any sense whatsoever.

    Let me clear it up for you, if you weren't able to get it from my post. Anything that comes out her mouth, that's what I don't believe. And that's a bit of a stretch to say I am defending someone because Elizabeth Warren is a lying sac'o crap. I'm not defending any of the other filth that runs the Senate, make no mistake about that.
    I'll quote you:

    She will stop at nothing. She will say anything to further her cause. Who knows if any of this ever really happened to this freshman senator?
    I was confused what you were referring to with the vague term "this" in that quote?

    And, yes, it's quite clear you don't like the woman. That comes through loud and clear.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    And, yes, it's quite clear you don't like the woman. That comes through loud and clear.
    Oh good, I'm glad you got that. Not personal, since I don't know her that way, just as a politician. I consider her an enemy of our Constitution.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Yep, definitely the new "Kenya."

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Yeah, she should name names, after all..look how well Anita Hill was supported when she did so.
    Anita Hill had balls (so to speak) and what she did brought sexual harassment out of the shadows and on to the front pages. Regardless of whether she was believable or not, she did a great favor to women and helped alter the way women are treated in the workplace. Warren has a similar opportunity here, but chose not to take it. To Warren, her own victimhood status is more important I guess.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Probably not. If you start attacking those men.. bigger more powerful men in DC, you put yourself at risk as a politician. Those guys have sway and access to the media, and they have big ass, rich supporters and donors who want them to stay in office. The lobbyist would defend them. The right wing media would defend them. The spineless liberal media would debate the topic.

    Really... you don't think Fox News would do their job in propping up any of those men in a sexual harassment scandal... ****ing please. Rush Limbaugh would go the hell off calling these women liars and sluts. He would demand to know what they were wearing, because they were probably begging for the guys to compliment and smack their asses. Megan Kelly and Misha Brzezinski would suspiciously criticize all the women making the allegations. The 24 hour news media spin would make it a debate issue, not congratulate these women for their bravery and courage.
    I think you mean "Mika" Brzezinski? She's on MSNBC, not Fox News, and she was talking about this yesterday on Morning Joe and agreeing with the rest of the gang that Warren & Gillibrand need to name names. Mika herself brought action against MSNBC a few years ago at the risk of alienating her employers, but she knew naming names was the only thing to do.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    She answered a direct question. Pretty ingenious political ploy to answer 'Yes' to a direct question!

    And I'm not sure why anyone needs to respond to a headline and a flack's take on it, when what she actually said was just a couple dozen words.
    Then why are you posting in this thread?
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