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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'll say it one more time. I'll even give the group on MSNBC credit for saying it first today - if she and Gillibrand are going to make the claim, then they either need to name names, or be prepared to 1) be called liars, 2) have people make the assumption that the men in question are of their own party which is why they are not naming names, or 2) assume this is a political ploy.
    And I'll again point to the question she actually answered, what her response actually was - Yes - and suggest you focus on what she actually said instead of words that some talking heads on MSNBC might have put in her mouth.

    Bottom line is to the extent Warren made an actual claim with her "Yes" answer and subsequent statements it was that she was treated differently by her Senate colleagues because she was a woman. That is it. Everything else is projection.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    And I'll again point to the question she actually answered, what her response actually was - Yes - and suggest you focus on what she actually said instead of words that some talking heads on MSNBC might have put in her mouth.

    Bottom line is to the extent Warren made an actual claim with her "Yes" answer and subsequent statements it was that she was treated differently by her Senate colleagues because she was a woman. That is it. Everything else is projection.
    Let me know when she says who is treating her differently in Congress or specifically how she's being treated differently. Until then, I'll assume it's a political ploy. I'm not alone there, either.

    By the way, maybe you didn't read the OP or the headline that I posted. It wasn't about her answer "yes". It was what I have said repeatedly. She says she's treated differently, but won't say how.
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Elizabeth Warren is one of those special people that I just can't ever feel sorry for. She is here to destroy our country, by any means possible.
    And I don't mean smoldering cities, though it might as well be. Government in full control. Constitution gone or completely irrelevant. Your personal freedoms and liberties are only what the government says you can have, and will take away at any moment. You're starting to make some money? Hand it over, you didn't build that.

    Yeah, I'd prefer the smoldering cities.

    She needs to up her name recognition, she wants to be President some day (to accomplish her goal). She will stop at nothing. She will say anything to further her cause. Who knows if any of this ever really happened to this freshman senator? And in her case, who cares?
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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    What "claim"? That she has been harassed? I don't doubt that she has ESPECIALLY in light of prominence in trying to become head of consumer credit which the male dominated RW was in near total opposition to.
    Are you seriously going to hold up the absolute fraud O'Keefe as a poster child of the innocent?

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    Let me thank you for demonstrating the point so clearly, however inadvertent on your part.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Words from a Democrat's mouth=the truth
    Words from a Conservative's mouth=a lie

    You're obviously not up to speed on your partisanship.
    Hey Tres, was that not a classic? People are gonna think it was a setup.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Well, the claims that she's making should rock the political world. After all, who but everyone who has spent more than one day working on Capitol Hill would believe such scandalous charges - the Senate still has male chauvinists!! Oh please, tell me it isn't true!!!!
    She could have said what it was without naming a name.
    Maybe the poor schmuck held a door open for her.

    "Men who open doors for women are guilty of 'benevolent sexism' according to a new study by feminist psychologists."

    Feminists claim men who hold open doors for women are SEXIST not chivalrous | Daily Mail Online

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    She could have said what it was without naming a name.
    Maybe the poor schmuck held a door open for her.

    "Men who open doors for women are guilty of 'benevolent sexism' according to a new study by feminist psychologists."

    Feminists claim men who hold open doors for women are SEXIST not chivalrous | Daily Mail Online
    You could have found that out by reading some of the posts from the feminists that post here. I had one feminist poster here tell me that it is treating women like second class citizens and another tell me it is like being treated like a child. The most consistent message however was that it was behavior done by men that thought they were superior to women. Come on, really?

    They couldn't possibly get it more wrong, but whatever.

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    She could have said what it was without naming a name.
    Maybe the poor schmuck held a door open for her.

    "Men who open doors for women are guilty of 'benevolent sexism' according to a new study by feminist psychologists."

    Feminists claim men who hold open doors for women are SEXIST not chivalrous | Daily Mail Online
    Oh for God's sake! Sexist because a man holds a door open for a woman? I always believed it was good manners, and I taught my sons accordingly! Sheesh! I would have thought it more sexist if a guy had said "open the door yourself - I'm not your slave," which then automatically makes him a SOB in their eyes, right?

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You could have found that out by reading some of the posts from the feminists that post here. I had one feminist poster here tell me that it is treating women like second class citizens and another tell me it is like being treated like a child. The most consistent message however was that it was behavior done by men that thought they were superior to women. Come on, really?

    They couldn't possibly get it more wrong, but whatever.
    Don't you wonder about the kind of people you have to deal with here sometimes?

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    It's not controversial that women aren't naming names compared to the fact that women in congress and senate are being sexually harassed by men. I am not a bit surprised by these claims. Running DC is a old boys network, and most of those men have power and money. There needs to be more women in politics, and I am talking about women in both parties. Let's not use stories like this to attack liberal women values. Women should stand together against sexist treatment. It was BS when Palin went through it. It's BS for Warren to experience it to.



    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say how

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren says she has been treated differently as a woman in Congress.

    But unlike Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, who opened up about her experience with sexism on Capitol Hill in a recent book, Warren the first woman ever elected to the U.S. Senate from Massachusetts won't elaborate.

    In an interview with CNN scheduled to air Wednesday, Warren was asked whether she had experienced treatment similar to what Gillibrand described.

    "Yes," Warren said.

    Would she care to elaborate?

    "Nope," she said. "I've said all I'm going to say."

    <snip>


    First off, she looks nuts in that picture.

    Second, she (and her Democratic counterparts in DC) push female citizens to fight against treatment like this, at the risk of alienating their bosses and co-workers, etc. But Senator Warren doesn't want to name names? Doesn't want to provide specifics? Doesn't want to fight it?

    What am I missing here?

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    Re: Elizabeth Warren says she's been treated differently in the Senate but won't say

    My mom was sexually harassed at work for years and said little to nothing. The guy was her boss, and he was sexually harassing all the women under him. Under his direction, another male became really full of himself and out of line. It lead to an overall sexist workplace culture that was acceptable according to all the men at the top.

    I am not surprised a woman wouldn't speak out and name names in DC. If she named names, the hacks would line up to attack her for naming names, they would demand proof, and she would risk alienating herself politically and damage her ability to get others to work with her.

    When my mom went through the BS she did, we did research online, and read it was important to write dates down and descriptions of the events and statements. It helps your case to build records. So in time, hopefully these women will name names. I hope they are writing it down, and the culture comes out in more and more books in the future.



    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Suppose she's telling the truth. What would keep her from naming names? Simplest answer is that it was fellow Democrats who were acting badly.

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