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    Re: What could go wrong? Volunteers go door-to-door ‘ballot harvesting’ in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Right.

    The only way to fix it after that is to simply stop having public elections and just let the Politburo make sure the "right" candidates get placed in the right offices.
    Not exactly what I meant. If ballot manipulation becomes wide spread, no one will know if the one who received the most votes actually won. If our election system become mistrusted due to shenanigans that bring about pre-determined results instead of the actual results...that is more what I was getting at.
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    Re: What could go wrong? Volunteers go door-to-door ‘ballot harvesting’ in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    At the poll I have to show ID and sign the roll book before I get a ballot. If someone has already voted using my name I can verify the signature right there. With a mail in ballot, however, I probably won't even know if someone else has submitted one in my name and won't be able to verify the signature unless someone reports the discrepancy and contacts me. While a mail in ballot envelope needs to be signed the ONLY verification I'm aware of is that the ballot is mailed to my registered address.
    Which probably has something to do with why California counts the mail-in ballots only when the race is close enough for them to affect the outcome. Apart from that, ballots are printed on watermarked card stock (and use calibration ink marks), so they're not exactly easy to forge.
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    Re: What could go wrong? Volunteers go door-to-door ‘ballot harvesting’ in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Not exactly what I meant. If ballot manipulation becomes wide spread, no one will know if the one who received the most votes actually won. If our election system become mistrusted due to shenanigans that bring about pre-determined results instead of the actual results...that is more what I was getting at.
    Yeah. I was just extrapolating.

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    Re: What could go wrong? Volunteers go door-to-door ‘ballot harvesting’ in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Which probably has something to do with why California counts the mail-in ballots only when the race is close enough for them to affect the outcome. Apart from that, ballots are printed on watermarked card stock (and use calibration ink marks), so they're not exactly easy to forge.

    I'm not particularly concerned with forged ballots but ballots that are filled out fraudulently, coercively or without the full knowledge of applicable voter are a concern.

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    Re: What could go wrong? Volunteers go door-to-door ‘ballot harvesting’ in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    A couple of years ago down here in Tucson we found a Democrat GOTV crew at a retirement home specializing in dementia care "helping" residents fill out their ballots. I was actually involved in one of the campaigns that year and while we won at the polls we got massacred in the mail in ballots.
    Did the residents have state approved ID? I understand that it prevents all voting irregularities.
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    Re: What could go wrong? Volunteers go door-to-door ‘ballot harvesting’ in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Which probably has something to do with why California counts the mail-in ballots only when the race is close enough for them to affect the outcome. Apart from that, ballots are printed on watermarked card stock (and use calibration ink marks), so they're not exactly easy to forge.
    It's my understanding that Co. voters can just print ballots from their computers....Is that true?
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    Re: What could go wrong? Volunteers go door-to-door ‘ballot harvesting’ in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    My guess would be the voter registration form they have on file. People going to the polls also have to print their names in a ledger and sign it.
    What I've been seeing personally, in the last two election cycles, is that people go to their polling place to vote, and are informed that they have already voted. The people I have seen this happen to were older folks, a couple of them using walkers to get around, but mentally sound. They go to vote, and are unable to, because apparently, someone else has already sent in a ballot by mail with their name on it. I suspect that fraud by absentee ballot is a real problem.
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    Re: What could go wrong? Volunteers go door-to-door ‘ballot harvesting’ in Colorado

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    'Ballot harvesting' by Colorado campaign workers raises vote abuse fears - Washington Times


    At the same time, he’s less concerned about door-to-door ballot harvesting. “If you’re giving your ballot to somebody you don’t know, and your ballot doesn’t get cast, there’s nobody to blame but yourself,” Mr. Harvey said.
    So it is apparently legal in Colorado for someone to collect some ballots and mail or turn them in as a group. Doesn't mean they are doing anything to the ballots themselves; just making sure they get in.

    If the ballots get altered, pretty sure that will get caught by the vote counting machines.

    It's all about getting more people to vote, which we need in this country.

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    Re: What could go wrong? Volunteers go door-to-door ‘ballot harvesting’ in Colorado

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    'Ballot harvesting' by Colorado campaign workers raises vote abuse fears - Washington Times




    So it is apparently legal in Colorado for someone to collect some ballots and mail or turn them in as a group. Doesn't mean they are doing anything to the ballots themselves; just making sure they get in.

    If the ballots get altered, pretty sure that will get caught by the vote counting machines.

    It's all about getting more people to vote, which we need in this country.
    People will rest easier now that you're "pretty sure".

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    Re: What could go wrong? Volunteers go door-to-door ‘ballot harvesting’ in Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    At the poll I have to show ID and sign the roll book before I get a ballot. If someone has already voted using my name I can verify the signature right there. With a mail in ballot, however, I probably won't even know if someone else has submitted one in my name and won't be able to verify the signature unless someone reports the discrepancy and contacts me. While a mail in ballot envelope needs to be signed the ONLY verification I'm aware of is that the ballot is mailed to my registered address.
    Luther, I voted with mail in ballot in this years primary because I'm registered as an independent and it's the only way I can vote in the primary. I went on line and requested a ballot. They mailed it to me. I filled it out and dropped it off at the polling place. No ID was shown.
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