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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    If a citizen poses a danger? In what sense? On what proof? If the citizen breaks the law, charge them. If not, the state has no business interfering. That is the difference we used to hold up between the free world and the enemy.
    Both these jerks apparently posted their hatreds on Social Media, such as Facebook, and their intention were well known. I doubt the police selected them at random.

    If we know someone is going to commit a crime, especially murder, then it is our responsibility to act rather than dithering over whether it is illegal or immoral. They may also have been trying to save these two individuals from themselves. The removal of their passports did not prevent their movement within the country though, in retrospect, it would have been wiser to shoot each of them a day earlier.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    No, I didn't say that either. But I do think we all must do what we can -- primarily through education and dialogue -- to change our ways of thinking and to prevent people from going extreme. Tell me... why do you think these radicals hate the West/America?
    You are saying do nothing and wait for them to attack here

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Unlike the current President of the United States, our Canadian Prime Minister likes to get all the facts in from law enforcement and others before he starts opining on a situation. If this had been in Washington, I'm sure Obama would already be out telling the world that the dead terrorist could have been his son.

    CJ

    Why are you taking a tragedy like this to attack Obama on a race related issue.

    This is so beneath you my man.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Both these jerks apparently posted their hatreds on Social Media, such as Facebook, and their intention were well known. I doubt the police selected them at random.

    If we know someone is going to commit a crime, especially murder, then it is our responsibility to act rather than dithering over whether it is illegal or immoral. They may also have been trying to save these two individuals from themselves. The removal of their passports did not prevent their movement within the country though, in retrospect, it would have been wiser to shoot each of them a day earlier.
    Bolded is the problem.
    As to shooting them a day sooner, yeah that would be nice and soem good people would be alive today but how do you know when to shoot someone 1 day before they commit an act of terrorism?
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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You are saying do nothing and wait for them to attack here
    They already have.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Both these jerks apparently posted their hatreds on Social Media, such as Facebook, and their intention were well known. I doubt the police selected them at random.

    If we know someone is going to commit a crime, especially murder, then it is our responsibility to act rather than dithering over whether it is illegal or immoral. They may also have been trying to save these two individuals from themselves. The removal of their passports did not prevent their movement within the country though, in retrospect, it would have been wiser to shoot each of them a day earlier.
    Supposed intent is rather thin brew to ristrict citizens' rights on. And on social media? Based on that any half baked hacker could put you behind bars in a jiffy.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    They already have.
    And still we are doing nothing that matters

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    You don't have to visit that that site to know it's comprised of individuals who believe that people should "speak English or get out" White Nationalism and all that garbage. If you aren't a WASP then you're not right.
    Can I take your word for that ? I don't read Stormfront or have never visited the website.

    You must have.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    If a citizen poses a danger? In what sense? On what proof? If the citizen breaks the law, charge them. If not, the state has no business interfering. That is the difference we used to hold up between the free world and the enemy.
    https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/re.../si-81-86.html

    10.1 Without limiting the generality of subsections 4(3) and (4) and for greater certainty, the Minister may refuse or revoke a passport if the Minister is of the opinion that such action is necessary for the national security of Canada or another country.
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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    There are 12 pages. Does anyone knows what is going on still?
    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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