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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    No. this was the act of a wannabe terrorist who won't be doing any more harm thanks to the courage of one man.
    Why would you classify him as a wannabe?

    What does somebody have to do to be an actual terrorist in your opinion?

    is it the body count that moves them from wannabe status to full fledged terrorist?

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How many people did the communusts murder? 100 million?
    The poster knows nothing, but the problem is that much of the hatred of America begins in America. That should be exposed more frequently..

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I do - I believe it's the responsible thing to do for a country to control those who wish to travel on the country's documents in order to cause death and destruction in other countries. A national passport is a privilege, not a right - a passport says to the world that this citizen of this country is law abiding and carries a form of "guarantee" that he/she is not a threat. Canadian passports are well respected and desired and many dual citizens travel only on their Canadian passport because of that respect/reputation. I've got no problem with revoking that privilege from anyone who wants to abuse it for illegal purposes.
    I travel a lot and am in the tourist business so meet many people from all over the world. It seems to me that everyone from the western democracies takes pride in their passport and are ambassadors of what that passport represents, and they behave accordingly. It is more than just a license.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I understand the argument. But till the citizen has committed a crime? I really do not know. That is a very slippery slope we have ventured out on. If they state they want to fight against the interests of allies, I guess then we can argue validly. If it is only a (well documented) suspicion? If it goes wrong, then a government could suspect you.
    This is one of the lesser ways our rights are being encroached. If any Canadian represents a threat to anyone outside our borders then it is our responsibility as good world citizens to prevent that threat from leaving.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why would you classify him as a wannabe?

    What does somebody have to do to be an actual terrorist in your opinion?


    is it the body count that moves them from wannabe status to full fledged terrorist?


    A lot more than what this loser did. He gave up his life for what?

    What did he accomplish, other than maybe waking some people up?

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    A lot more than what this loser did. He gave up his life for what?

    What did he accomplish, other than maybe waking some people up?
    So you look at the outcome of his actions and not his intent? I am sure he did not intend to be taken out so quickly, so his body count would have been higher.

    How many bodies does it take to be a real terrorist?

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    This is interesting. You are arguing for the basic right of movement for a man that was going to an area with no basic rights of any kind.

    Does that make sense to you?
    If that is what he wants to do? Reporters do it all the time. Hemingway wrote very good prose on his experience there. Who am I to judge another's happiness or pursuit thereof. If the guy professed intent of murder? But otherwise?

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    A lot more than what this loser did. He gave up his life for what?

    What did he accomplish, other than maybe waking some people up?
    Two acts of terror in Canada in just three days and both losers shot dead before they could do more harm. I haven't heard anyone complain yet about this swift justice, and don't expect to..

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is one of the lesser ways our rights are being encroached. If any Canadian represents a threat to anyone outside our borders then it is our responsibility as good world citizens to prevent that threat from leaving.
    If a citizen poses a danger? In what sense? On what proof? If the citizen breaks the law, charge them. If not, the state has no business interfering. That is the difference we used to hold up between the free world and the enemy.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    So you look at the outcome of his actions and not his intent? I am sure he did not intend to be taken out so quickly, so his body count would have been higher. How many bodies does it take to be a real terrorist?
    Terrorism is also accomplished through violent riots, and threats of violence. That's why much of the western media refused to publish the Mohamed cartoons, the Comedy Central backing off, along with dozens of other examples. These acts of terror, along with charges of Islamophobia, serve a purpose. In two days or less Muslim groups will be condemning this act of violence along with concerns of "Islamophobia". This MO has been going on for years.

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