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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

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    Are you saying we should do nothing and wait for them to attack us? I guess them beheading innocent Americans means nothing to you
    No, I didn't say that either. But I do think we all must do what we can -- primarily through education and dialogue -- to change our ways of thinking and to prevent people from going extreme. Tell me... why do you think these radicals hate the West/America?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Maybe if they had taken his passport from him Hemingway would have shot up Congress instead of going off to fight in Spain?

    Now don't get me wrong and I do not know the details of this case. But stopping someone from traveling is qualitatively sort of like imprisoning him. It restricts the persons' movement. Unless a crime has been committed?

    I am not sure, but I think we've got this one wrong.
    All countries have the ability to restrict the mouvement of its citizens outside of their borders. For example try being an American and going to Cuba. Canada is one the countries that does this the least.
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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    All countries have the ability to restrict the mouvement of its citizens outside of their borders. For example try being an American and going to Cuba. Canada is one the countries that does this the least.
    I have never been very happy with that type of restriction. Movement is a rather fundamental right of citizens that governemt should not really be allowed to infringe apon. I understand the logic, but think it is wrong headed.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Canada has passed legislation around passports and travel for the purposes of fighting with terrorists. There's also legislation related to the withdrawal of passports and citizenship of those who are found to have traveled and fought in such "wars" if they are dual citizens or not natural born Canadians.

    No laws are perfect - bottom line, however, is that no law made someone kill another person - that's always on the perpetrator.

    To be clear, just in case it wasn't in my previous post, I support such laws.
    So I had understood. I do not think I like such laws.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I have never been very happy with that type of restriction. Movement is a rather fundamental right of citizens that governemt should not really be allowed to infringe apon. I understand the logic, but think it is wrong headed.
    You can think that all you want but Canada remains one of the countries with the most freedom in respect to limiting the mouvment of it`s citizens outside its borders.
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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    You can think that all you want but Canada remains one of the countries with the most freedom in respect to limiting the mouvment of it`s citizens outside its borders.
    Be it as it may. In this point Canada restricts a very basic right of freedom.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Be it as it may. In this point Canada restricts a very basic right of freedom.
    It is not a blanket restriction and was done for a specific reason to a specific individual. As to a very bassic human right i think that is going way overboard as no country sees it that way.
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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    It is not a blanket restriction and was done for a specific reason to a specific individual. As to a very bassic human right i think that is going way overboard as no country sees it that way.
    Freedom of movement is not a basic right? I would have thought it a necessary condition for free association, communication of opinions and so on.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    The German soldiers probably fought harder when they learned we bombed totally civilian cities like Dresden.
    We took away manpower reserves.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    He apparently doesn't. He was smoking in the boys room during history class. LOL

    He probably thinks the Europeans predated the Native Americans. LMFAO
    The Spaniards are native Americans?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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