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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I wonder what his background is? I'll bet he's former military.
    He is former RCMP.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I wonder what his background is? I'll bet he's former military.
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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Yes, it is. They just straight up and said it.

    Did you hear about the old guy, their version of the Attorney General,. I think, that shot dead one of the terrorists in their Capital Building?
    He is Canada's "Sergeant at Arms", the man who controls the comings and goings into and out of the House of Commons. It's an old British Parliamentary tradition and part of the "pageantry" of Parliament. I, for one, didn't realize the Sergeant at Arms was indeed armed and able to protect Parliament in such a way. As Canadians, we basically pride ourselves in our places of government being very open and accessible by the general public and this may make that less so but I'm certainly glad this man was able to take down the terrorist before he got any further. I also didn't realize that security that protects entry into the Parliamentary buildings in Ottawa are unarmed, even though they are there to ensure that no one enters the buildings armed. I'm pretty sure that won't continue into the future.
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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Don't these morons know these senseless attacks just increase the resolve of Canada and other countries to clean house of them?
    There are many people in this world, sadly, who are susceptible to this type of propaganda because of problems in their own lives where they lack the control they want and they seek out opportunities like this. The young man in Quebec who ran down the soldiers was having difficulty with custody/visitation with his child and I'm sure that was a contributing factor in his radicalization. In Islam, the woman having such control over a man and his child is unheard of and may be part of what was attractive to him. We'll never know for sure, but with the level of mental illness in the world there will always be ready recruits to such dangers.
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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    You legislators need to pass a law that will do more than take their passports. One thing I heard is there isn't much law enforcement can do with the existing laws.
    Actually, the young man who ran down the two soldiers in Quebec earlier was stopped when attempting to travel to Syria to join with the IS fighters. His passport was confiscated denying him the ability to travel. There are some that believe that contributed to his actions killing the soldier. He was under observation, but it's impossible to have 24/7 coverage of such people and until they do something illegal, you can't imprison them.
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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Actually, the young man who ran down the two soldiers in Quebec earlier was stopped when attempting to travel to Syria to join with the IS fighters. His passport was confiscated denying him the ability to travel. There are some that believe that contributed to his actions killing the soldier. He was under observation, but it's impossible to have 24/7 coverage of such people and until they do something illegal, you can't imprison them.
    Maybe if they had taken his passport from him Hemingway would have shot up Congress instead of going off to fight in Spain?

    Now don't get me wrong and I do not know the details of this case. But stopping someone from traveling is qualitatively sort of like imprisoning him. It restricts the persons' movement. Unless a crime has been committed?

    I am not sure, but I think we've got this one wrong.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Maybe if they had taken his passport from him Hemingway would have shot up Congress instead of going off to fight in Spain?

    Now don't get me wrong and I do not know the details of this case. But stopping someone from traveling is qualitatively sort of like imprisoning him. It restricts the persons' movement. Unless a crime has been committed?

    I am not sure, but I think we've got this one wrong.
    Canada has passed legislation around passports and travel for the purposes of fighting with terrorists. There's also legislation related to the withdrawal of passports and citizenship of those who are found to have traveled and fought in such "wars" if they are dual citizens or not natural born Canadians.

    No laws are perfect - bottom line, however, is that no law made someone kill another person - that's always on the perpetrator.

    To be clear, just in case it wasn't in my previous post, I support such laws.
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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Thanks for these posts, CanadaJohn. The visa and visitation issues surely contributed to this young man's twisted frame of mind. I agree with you: Given that there will always be crazies in search of a cause, there will be some who are ripe for the picking. "Ready recruits," as you say, and not much to be done for it unless and until they break the law.

    So terribly sorry for what happened yesterday, but I think it may have an opposite effect from what the terrorist groups hope.

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    Re: Shooting at Canadian Parlament

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Details are sketchy right now, but I would not be surprised if the shooter(s) are ISIS wanna b's and are copycating what happened yesterday in Montreal.
    We support our friends in Canada.

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