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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Still trying to figure out your definition, so let's try:
    A 16 year old looking for a part time job.
    Someone fired for cause and hasn't tried to find a new job.
    Someone who quits and starts looking for a new job.
    Someone who got laid off and decided they didn't need a job and would stay home with the kids.
    A multi-million dollar lottery winner who stops looking for work.
    Someone who stops looking for work due to pregnancy.
    Someone who stops looking for work because he's just enrolled in a trade school.
    A retiree who decides to look for a part time job.

    Is it really as simple as you thought? Are your divisions clear, do they make sense, and do they give you the info you want?
    You're going to use lottery winners in your example? Really? What is that, like 1/1,000,000 of the population?
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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The relentless bashing of anything-Obama and anything-Democratic for the last 6 years by FOX, especially the last 2, is clearly the deciding factor in this mid-term. We'll see if there is still an Ebola scare next Wed. Or if Dems can salvage a few governor gains .
    Yeah, it's all just mean old Fox...Couldn't be failed policy nooooo.
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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The definition would include those that want a job but can't find one and have exhausted UE benefits so they are NOT counted. That would make the TRUE number quite a bit higher and you know it.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    But that's not true...The U-3 is what is commonly used to report figures to the people, and that uses data of monthly benefit claims. There are more out there that want to work but have exhausted their benefits.
    The unemployment rate (U3) has NEVER EVER been based on UI benefits.
    Employment Situation Technical Note
    "People are classified as unemployed if they meet all of the following criteria: they had no employment during the reference week; they were available for work at that time; and they made specific efforts to find employment sometime during the 4-week period ending with the reference week. Persons laid off from a job and expecting recall need not be looking for work to be counted as unemployed. The unemployment data derived from the household survey in no way depend upon the eligibility for or receipt of unemployment insurance benefits."

    I have to ask...where did you get the idea that the UE rate was based on UI benefits? It's never been true.
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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The definition would include those that want a job but can't find one and have exhausted UE benefits so they are NOT counted. That would make the TRUE number quite a bit higher and you know it.
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're going to use lottery winners in your example? Really? What is that, like 1/1,000,000 of the population?
    So? The definition, to mean anything, has to be specific, exclusive, and cover everything. Actual lottery winner is irrelevant...the point is how do you classify someone not working who does not want a job?
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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Apparently you have a short memory.

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Apparently you have a short memory.

    Irrelevant to whether your side is ever honest.
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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Compared to your pulling numbers out of your ass? Of course.

    What more reliable method would you propose?
    For the UE rate, at 90% confidence, the margin of error is +/- 0.2 percentage points (meaning the "real" number is somewhere between 5.7 and 6.1%

    Compare to Gallup's estimate with a margin of error of +/- 0.7 percentage points.

    But in any case, I note you're skipping over that you just made up where the data came from and decided to pass it off as fact without trying to see if you were right. Do you really consider that honest?
    You really get offended when people show how inaccurate and corrupt the Government and Obama are

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    what is their definition of Unemployed and where did they get their numbers from? And why do you think they are more accurate except that they match what you want the numbers to be?
    Read the link I think they use BLS stats

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Krauthammer just blamed Obama for the space disaster today. This is today's GOP unfiltered.

    After continued economic growth through the new year, we'll be seeing a whole lot of buyer's remorse with Boehner/McConnell running this expansion into an austere halt .
    Who dismantled the NASA space program?

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It is almost like the Democrats let Fox News run their campaigns for them. Conservative media claims 2014 is a referendum on Obama, and the Democratic candidates run right out there and campaign as if it actually is.
    How is that different from the liberal media and the 2006 elections?

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