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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    If they are not doing it through the government it is not counted
    huh? If who is not doing what through the government what's not counted?

    What a BS chart. There are millions not working and they have less than 100,000?
    No it doesn't. You did see that the numbers are in thousands, right?

    you don't like the participation figures but it is millions not in labor force
    Right.
    92,453,000. And 86,536,000 don't want a job.
    Only 698,000 "gave up looking" in the last year.
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    But we were talking about unemployed and that's what you wanted proof for.
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Except the unemployment rate doesn't get revised on a monthly basis, so you are clearly not speaking from knowledge.


    Unemployed has always been defined as those not working who are trying to work. Nobody has ever counted retirees, stay home spouses, disabled, or students or anyone else not trying to work as unemployed.


    No, that can't happen. The only way the rate can go down when the number of unemployed goes up is if employed goes up by more.

    [To me the unemployment rate should be total work force available minus all those who are not working.
    That's not a rate. But in any case the unemployment rate IS the number of people available for work but not working divided by everyone available for work. So I'm glad you agree.[/QUOTE]

    You telling me they do not revise the month employment rates. I think you better tell that to the news stations. I keep hearing them report in October the the monthly revised unemployment rate is so and so for September. Now I think it is you who does not know what you are talking about. Either that or all these years the newspapers, TV news and on the radio have been filling the airways with propaganda.

    Now I really do not know about you, who in the world said one should count retirees? Or full time students? ETC. Etc. If a person loses his job even if he stops looking for a job and he is not retired, a student etc. etc., he still should be counted.

    Now here again, I have heard on the news that although more people were hired this month than lost their jobs this month, the unemployment rose a tenth of a point because a lot of those who stopped looking for work started looking again. So why weren't those people counted as unemployed to begin with. Government playing with number which in reality do not mean a thing if this is the case.
    1. you are either unemployed, out of work or you are working. That seems pretty darn simple to me, not counting retirees which should be taken out of the pool, full time students never should be added, etc. etc. etc.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    huh? If who is not doing what through the government what's not counted?


    No it doesn't. You did see that the numbers are in thousands, right?


    Right.
    92,453,000. And 86,536,000 don't want a job.
    Only 698,000 "gave up looking" in the last year.
    I still call the government figures BS If you are not looking for work through the state unemployment office you are not counted.

    Just like real unemployment is never discussed by liberals

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    But we were talking about unemployed and that's what you wanted proof for.
    The show the real unemployment numbers

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I still call the government figures BS If you are not looking for work through the state unemployment office you are not counted.
    Where on Earth did you get that idea from????????
    Is that what you do: just decide something is true without caring about reality?
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
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    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So, you just blindly accept what a blog says without any idea what their definitions, methodology, or anything is?
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Where on Earth did you get that idea from????????
    Is that what you do: just decide something is true without caring about reality?
    Then explain what is used to decide who is looking and who is not

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    So, you just blindly accept what a blog says without any idea what their definitions, methodology, or anything is?
    it is more accurate than the government low ball figure

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Then explain what is used to decide who is looking and who is not
    No, first, please tell me why you thought only people who went through state agencies were considered unemployed and why you would state that as a fact.

    I'm always curious where people get these strange ideas, but no one ever wants to answer.
    Did you just decide that must be true based on nothing?
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    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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