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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    You're not even trying anymore to support your ridiculous claims.
    Why should I when you ignore the facts and spew obama talking points

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Why should I when you ignore the facts
    There's only one person ignoring facts and it's you. I've presented facts multiple times. Your only response has been to call the facts "Obama talking points" and then quote sources which use the same facts I present.

    But I don't blame you for not trying...after all, you have been completely wrong.

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    There's only one person ignoring facts and it's you. I've presented facts multiple times. Your only response has been to call the facts "Obama talking points" and then quote sources which use the same facts I present.

    But I don't blame you for not trying...after all, you have been completely wrong.
    I have proven you wrong and shown unemployment went down due to people that stopped looking not because of the part time jobs we get because of Obama policies

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    That is crap. The reason is there are no jobs that you can support a family on. When 70% of the jobs created are part time that does not help
    Well, that has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote.
    And what is your support for your claim? I'll warn you that in July, there was a big drop in full time workers, but that was made up in August and September. So a cite from August is out of date.
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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Well, that has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote.
    And what is your support for your claim? I'll warn you that in July, there was a big drop in full time workers, but that was made up in August and September. So a cite from August is out of date.
    You can stop making stipulations and excuses for Obama. His including part time numbers and not counting those no longer looking gives a false view anyway

    If you read this you will see how Obama is deceiving you

    September jobs report – 248,000 jobs added, 5.9% unemployment rate « Hot Air

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You can stop making stipulations and excuses for Obama. His including part time numbers and not counting those no longer looking gives a false view anyway
    Wait, are you claiming that Obama personally calculates the numbers or decides the methodology???? Or that he's changed the methodology?

    If you read this you will see how Obama is deceiving you

    September jobs report – 248,000 jobs added, 5.9% unemployment rate « Hot Air
    There's nothing in there about anyone deceiving anyone. It also points out the increases in full time employment.
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Wait, are you claiming that Obama personally calculates the numbers or decides the methodology???? Or that he's changed the methodology?


    There's nothing in there about anyone deceiving anyone. It also points out the increases in full time employment.
    So you only read what was good for Obama
    Left unmentioned in the BLS press release was that, on a seasonally-adjusted basis, there were 236,000 more private-sector jobs in September than in August. Also unmentioned – the U-5 rate, which includes those who want to work and last looked for work between mid-September 2013 and mid-August 2014, went down from 7.4% to 7.3%, while the U-6 rate, which includes those working part-time due to economic conditions in addition to those included in the U-5 rate, went down from 12.0% to 11.8%.

    The “little” change in the seasonally-adjusted labor force particpation, a rounded 0.1 percentage point drop, means that the seasonally-adjusted participation rate for September is now lower than it was every month since February 1978, when it was also 62.7%. While there were 232,000 more people working in September than in August, more than the 217,000 increase in the civilian non-instutional population, there were 97,000 fewer people in the labor force.

    Nearly half of those workforce dropouts, 45,000, became the increase in the number of those who want a job but are not part of the labor force. That number is now 6,349,000, with nearly 2/3rds of the uncounted unemployed last looking for work over a year ago.

    Over the past year, 2,683,000 jobs were added on a not-seasonally-adjusted basis, 393,000 more than the growth in the civilian non-institutional population. However, over the same past year, only 12,000 more people gained employment, also on a not-seasonally-adjusted basis, than were added to the civilian non-institutional population.

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So you only read what was good for Obama
    Why would I care about what's good for Obama???
    Left unmentioned in the BLS press release was that, on a seasonally-adjusted basis, there were 236,000 more private-sector jobs in September than in August. Also unmentioned – the U-5 rate, which includes those who want to work and last looked for work between mid-September 2013 and mid-August 2014, went down from 7.4% to 7.3%, while the U-6 rate, which includes those working part-time due to economic conditions in addition to those included in the U-5 rate, went down from 12.0% to 11.8%.
    Well, that's all positive news, not sure what you find deceptive.
    I'm not sure why the article says "left unmentioned in the BLS press release" when they got all that info from the press release.
    The “little” change in the seasonally-adjusted labor force particpation, a rounded 0.1 percentage point drop, means that the seasonally-adjusted participation rate for September is now lower than it was every month since February 1978, when it was also 62.7%. While there were 232,000 more people working in September than in August, more than the 217,000 increase in the civilian non-instutional population, there were 97,000 fewer people in the labor force.

    Nearly half of those workforce dropouts, 45,000, became the increase in the number of those who want a job but are not part of the labor force. That number is now 6,349,000, with nearly 2/3rds of the uncounted unemployed last looking for work over a year ago.

    Over the past year, 2,683,000 jobs were added on a not-seasonally-adjusted basis, 393,000 more than the growth in the civilian non-institutional population. However, over the same past year, only 12,000 more people gained employment, also on a not-seasonally-adjusted basis, than were added to the civilian non-institutional population.
    Again, all in the press release. What are you claiming is deceptive and what do you think Obama has to do with calculating or anything at xxx all to do with the data?
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Why would I care about what's good for Obama???

    Well, that's all positive news, not sure what you find deceptive.
    I'm not sure why the article says "left unmentioned in the BLS press release" when they got all that info from the press release.

    Again, all in the press release. What are you claiming is deceptive and what do you think Obama has to do with calculating or anything at xxx all to do with the data?
    The so called job growth is not keeping up with population growth or those retiring so there is no gain for the unemployed and the labor participation is still at a bad place

    From my link

    there were 97,000 fewer people in the labor force.
    Over the past year, 2,683,000 jobs were added on a not-seasonally-adjusted basis, 393,000 more than the growth in the civilian non-institutional population. However, over the same past year, only 12,000 more people gained employment,

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    Re: AP-GfK Poll: Most expect GOP victory in November

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Much as I did not understand the GOP's strategy in 2012, I do not understand the Democratic strategy now. Why they are not pounding the successes of the last 6 years (growing economy, more jobs, lower deficits, advancement of civil rights, etc.) is beyond me. It's like they are so terrified to run on their own record of successes.

    They deserve to lose this election based on terrible campaigning.
    I'm sorry...advancements of civil rights? What advancements were these? The only advancements in civil rights that i've seen is in the SSM area and those are due to court decisions....not legislative decisions.
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