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    Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    1 hour ago • By Robert Patrick



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    WILSON’S STORY


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    Wilson told investigators that after Brown passed by, Wilson realized that Johnson’s clothing matched a recent radio alert about a suspect in a robbery at a nearby market where cigarillos had been taken. Wilson radioed for assistance and backed up his SUV to Brown and Johnson.

    The source said Wilson told investigators he had placed the SUV in park. When Wilson tried to get out of the SUV, Brown slammed its door shut and punched Wilson in the left side of the face through the open window, the source said.


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    Brown grabbed the pistol using his right hand, with his elbow against Wilson. Wilson described Brown as incredibly strong, the source said.

    During the struggle, Brown handed the cigarillos to Johnson, then swung his left hand and hit Wilson on the right side of the face. Wilson said he almost lost consciousness, the source said. Brown then began to use his left hand in the struggle for the gun, and turned the pistol until the barrel was against Wilson’s hip.

    The second time Wilson pulled the trigger, the gun did fire. Wilson told investigators he thought the bullet had struck Brown in the hand, the source said. Broken window glass was everywhere, and blood was on the door, the gun and Wilson’s hands. At the time, Wilson said, he wasn’t sure whose blood it was.


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    Wilson said Brown had not had his hands up; his left hand was slightly out, fingers pointing down. His right hand was grasping his shirt. Then, Wilson told investigators, Brown began running toward him.

    Wilson said he had yelled for Brown to stop, then fired, the source said. Brown flinched as if he was hit, and Wilson said he had stopped shooting. Brown continued running toward him, and Wilson said he had fired several more shots. The source said that Wilson had recalled that Brown’s head was down when the last shot hit him there.


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    Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him : News

    More detailed, but sounds like the supposed account as previously given by the anonymous friend.


    And also just published.

    Official autopsy shows Michael Brown had close-range wound to his hand, marijuana in system
    Official autopsy shows Michael Brown had close-range wound to his hand, marijuana in system : News



    PDF of Autopsy report.

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    No wonder Holder resigned. This is blowing up in his face.

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Wait, wait!!! This doesn't fit the liberal mantra ... tell me it isn't so!!!
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    So let me get this straight....

    1) Wilson was able to get his gun away from the much stronger Brown while being half consciousness?


    2) After being shot at close range by the cop, Brown ran for a minute but then decided that he was going to turn around and charge the same armed cop who just shot him????


    3) He was able to shoot him multiple times while being half consciousness?


    4) Brown punch him and wrestle for the gun. That means for this to go down, the window had to be completely down for this to even occur right? Where did the broken window glass come from? Remember, it was only 2 shots discharged.


    ......Okay.........
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    So let me get this straight....

    1) Wilson was able to get his gun away from the much stronger Brown while being half consciousness?


    2) After being shot at close range by the cop, Brown ran for a minute but then decided that he was going to turn around and charge the same armed cop who just shot him????


    3) He was able to shoot him multiple times while being half consciousness?


    4) Brown punch him and wrestle for the gun. That means for this to go down, the window had to be completely down for this to even occur right? Where did the broken window glass come from? Remember, it was only 2 shots discharged.


    ......Okay.........
    Half conscious?
    Stop making things up.
    He said "almost lost consciousness".
    That is not half conscious.
    Nor does it mean that you are half conscious at other points in time.

    And if case you have never felt such a feeling, it can be fleeting.


    Brown, who had been shot, turned around after being told to stop.
    What is your point? You think after being shot he could or even should keep running?


    One would think you would have bothered to do some research before asking an easily answered question.
    And no, the window did not have to be completely down.
    It could have been an inch or two up. And it could have been a different window such as the rear, or on the other side.

    Here is the thing. The FBI's forensics is what found Brown's blood in the vehicle, and Wilson had the scratches to show there was a confrontation between the two. Which was witnessed by others as well as a shot heard.
    So if there is glass there as Wilson supposedly says, there is glass there. It isn't like he is going to lie about that.
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    ]Half conscious?
    Stop making things up.
    He said "almost lost consciousness".
    That is not half conscious.
    Nor does it mean that you are half conscious at other points in time.
    Huh??? This all went down in a matter of a few minutes. If someone said that they almost lost conscious, that would tell me that they are dazed.


    Brown, who had been shot, turned around after being told to stop.
    What is your point? You think after being shot he could or even should keep running?
    From Wilson comments:

    Wilson said Brown had not had his hands up; his left hand was slightly out, fingers pointing down. His right hand was grasping his shirt. Then, Wilson told investigators, Brown began running toward him.
    Wilson said he had yelled for Brown to stop, then fired, the source said.



    One would think you would have bothered to do some research before asking easily answered questions.
    No its is you who need to do the research.

    Also, you didn't explain the broken glass. I look at multiple pictures of Wilson's SUV and all windows were up and clear except for the driver's window.

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Naa...Holder would spin this however he wanted....that's what you can do when you own the MSM. Notice his office still won't close Zimmerman / Martin either. Notice ofailure won't announce a replacement until after the mid terms for holder. I would not want to be Zimmerman or Off Wilson the Wednesday after the midterms with holder unrestrained.


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    No wonder Holder resigned. This is blowing up in his face.

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Huh??? This all went down in a matter of a few minutes. If someone said that they almost lost conscious, that would tell me that they are dazed.

    And again, in case you didn't know (which you have now shown twice that you don't), such feelings are and can be fleeting.



    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    From Wilson comments:

    Wilson said Brown had not had his hands up; his left hand was slightly out, fingers pointing down. His right hand was grasping his shirt. Then, Wilson told investigators, Brown began running toward him.
    Wilson said he had yelled for Brown to stop, then fired, the source said.
    And? You again have no point.
    Wilson doesn't remember saying anything while chasing him.
    Yet other witnesses say he was yelling for him to stop.



    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    No its is you who need to do the research.

    Also, you didn't explain the broken glass. I look at multiple pictures of Wilson's SUV and all windows were up and clear except for the driver's window.
    No, that is you who needs to.
    The image provided shows there is no back passenger window in view. (which I am sure you will just say that is just a dark window with a reflection) It either is, or isn't. So again, the drivers window did not have to be completely down, so it could have been that one.
    And your contention is absurd given what we already know.
    The FBI's forensics is what found Brown's blood in the vehicle, Brown had residue on his hand and Wilson had the scratches to show there was a confrontation between the two. Which was witnessed by others as well as a shot heard.
    So if there is glass there as Wilson supposedly says, there is glass there. It isn't like he is going to lie about that.
    And even though it could be the drivers window in question it could have been a window on the opposite side or a rear passenger window.
    Again, this is not something someone would lie about.
    Your contention is absurd.
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Autopsy reports said the shot to the top of the head occurred as Brown was going down which indicates he had forward momentum. There were no abdominal shots so he likely wasn't hunching over although possible that he was cradling his arm. But this could go a long way to validate the claim that Brown was moving towards Wilson.

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Wilson said Brown had not had his hands up; his left hand was slightly out, fingers pointing down. His right hand was grasping his shirt. Then, Wilson told investigators, Brown began running toward him.
    Wilson said he had yelled for Brown to stop, then fired, the source said.
    Other witnesses have apparently backed up the likely fact that Brown kept coming at the officer despite being told to stop. Whether he was running or not, may be in dispute. But Wilsonhaving been beaten to a point of feeling he would lose conciousness very likely would have altered his perception of what was going on, increased his fear for his life. Wether Brown was simply walking (as at least one eye-witness claimed) or running (As Wilson claimed) wil not have much of an impact on the outcome.

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