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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Was it a crime of assault for Wilson to back up his SUV, moving close enough to Dorian Johnson and Brown, so as to cause them fear of bodily harm?

    Was it assault for Wilson to open his SUV door, pushing against Brown, when Brown was standing near the door?

    If Wilson engaged in Assault, before attempting to arrest Brown, was this negligent behavior, leading to Brown's death? Is there probable cause to indict for Manslaughter?

    What was the reason that Wilson could not wait fro back-up before getting out of his SUV?
    Or at least letting Brown get a little further away, and still keeping him in sight?


    Will Rogers, I believe, said, "A grand jury can indict a Ham sandwich."


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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Was it a crime of assault for Wilson to back up his SUV, moving close enough to Dorian Johnson and Brown, so as to cause them fear of bodily harm?

    Was it assault for Wilson to open his SUV door, pushing against Brown, when Brown was standing near the door?

    If Wilson engaged in Assault, before attempting to arrest Brown, was this negligent behavior, leading to Brown's death? Is there probable cause to indict for Manslaughter?

    What was the reason that Wilson could not wait fro back-up before getting out of his SUV?
    Or at least letting Brown get a little further away, and still keeping him in sight?


    Will Rogers, I believe, said,
    "A grand jury can indict a Ham sandwich."


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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    Please show me the report that hasn't been completed yet stating that the witnesses stories does not match up. I don't give a damn about any right wing or left wing bloggers. For your education, those are called opinions. I don't give a damn about leaks because there have been "leaks" in past cases that ended up being false. So please show me the examiner report or a official grand jury statement that says that the Brown's witnesses were false.
    You seem confused. It's like you are so wrapped up in your own bias that you willfully refuse to see reality or pay attention to what has been provided.


    He wasn't shot in the back as claimed. Did you get that? Did you not realize the truth of that statement base on the forensics that was released?

    Those witnesses didn't see that. It was nothing more than a fabrication, which has already been proven untrue.

    Then they changed their stories about his hands being up. To they were just up a little, to they were just going up. Clearly demonstrating that they lied.
    Did you get that?
    Their publicly released statements about his hands being up changed.

    I do not need to provide any blogger or any left wing source to prove that.
    If you can't listen to what they publicly claimed and realize that their accounts of his hands being up changed as stated, as well as their accounts of Brown being shot in the back being shown to be completely false by the known forensics that has been publicly released, then that problem resides totally with you.

    So again, as I stated.
    We already know the publicly known accounts which supported Johnson's, and by virtue, Brown, were not credible.
    They have been falling apart from the get, from claims being outright false to changing to fit the known forensics.
    Of course those accounts, as known, have no credibility.
    What is not known is what these folks told investigators or the GJ if they testified.


    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    I could barely hear the guy talking because of the camera man talking and the loud chick across the street. I don't know. One can say that he was moving toward the cop with his hands up like "Look I surrender, stop shooting at me" If he ran at him like you want to believe, then why didn't the witness just say that he was running at the cop? And from that distance, was Brown suicidal? Did he want die? If that was the case why did he run the first time?
    And again.
    Brown was moving towards the Officer while he was told not to, and he continued to advance on the Officer even though the Officer was firing on him.
    And no his hands were not up in a surrender position. While surrendering, one does not continue to move towards the Officer once told not to, especially not while being fired upon.


    And as I already pointed out to you, we have no idea what the supposed witnesses have told the GJ, or if their accounts even match what they said publicly.
    While the 7 to 8 black witnesses that has been reported to be supporting Officers Wilson's account could be different, for all we know they may be the same witnesses that have already spoken out publicly.
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Does a Grand Jury have to consider defenses, for which it is the duty of the defendant to assert?

    in MO, Self Defense is an excuse, that can be asserted by the defendant.

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    •MO 563.074. Justification as an absolute defense, when.
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    Missouri Revised Statutes (M.R.S.) Chapter 563. Defense of Justification 563.074. Justification as an absolute defense, when. 1. Notwithstanding the provisions of section 563.016, a person who uses force as described in sections 563.031, 563.041, 563.046, 563.051, 563.056, and 563.061 is justified in using such force and such fact shall be an absolute defense to criminal prosecution or civil liability. 2. The court shall award attorney’s fees, court costs, and all reasonable expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant has an absolute defense as provided …"




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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    No True Bill from the Grand Jury will not help Wilson. Jay Nixon will appoint a special prosecutor.

    "In a letter sent to Nixon on Monday, attorney Benjamin Crump said a recent move by the county prosecutor’s office to place on hold all cases involving Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson, who shot and killed Brown in August, “clearly raises an issue of concern.” The letter states that Wilson, “as the arresting officer and primary witness for many of the prosecution’s current cases, has developed a special working relationship with Mr. McCulloch and his office.”

    “As a potential defendant who would be prosecuted by the same office if indicted, Wilson would impact the administration of justice. In light of recent developments, the appointment of a special prosecutor is now necessary more than ever, both to protect the appearance of a possible conflict of interest and to ensure that no bias exists,” Crump wrote in the letter. “For the sake of impartiality and the fair administration of justice, we ask that you appoint a special prosecutor to handle the prosecution into the death of Michael Brown, Jr.”


    Michael Brown's family to Gov. Jay Nixon: Appoint new prosecutor | MSNBC



    "At first, TCT contributor “sundance” studied enlarged photos taken at the scene of the shooting, and noticed what initially appeared to be a spent bullet shell casing laying on the pavement next to Wilson’s vehicle.
    Upon closer analysis, it occurred to sundance that the bright, shiny, gold-colored item in the image was not a spent shell casing at all; that it was instead a bracelet which had been worn by Johnson just prior to the incident, as shown by the surveillance video from the convenience store Brown and Johnson had just robbed.
    In the video, Johnson can be seen wearing something on his right wrist which, upon inspection, resembles the bright item laying on the pavement in the photo of the shooting scene, by Wilson’s vehicle.
    In his first recorded video statement to media at the scene just after the shooting, Johnson can clearly be seen with no bracelet on his right wrist–only some sort of elastic-looking band on his left wrist. One is compelled by all this to ask: If Dorian Johnson was not involved in the physical confrontation between Brown and Wilson, then how did his bracelet wind up on the ground next to Wilson’s patrol vehicle? "

    New Evidence Indicates Michael Brown’s Friend Joined Attack On Ferguson Cop

    Does Dorian Johnson have immunity? Full Immunity for testifying?


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