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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Every witness reports that Brown was not a threat when he was killed.
    Wrong.
    Moving toward the Officer does not make him a non threat.
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    One witness has come out and said Brown's hands were not up in surrender and he kept coming towards Wilson despite being told to stop - even if that same witness still believes it to be murder not that his opinion on that subject matters..
    Can please quote the witness? I believe the witness, if we're talking about the same one, stated that Brown was holding his "stomach" and stumbling forward. Not charging Wilson.
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Can please quote the witness? I believe the witness, if we're talking about the same one, stated that Brown was holding his "stomach" and stumbling forward. Not charging Wilson.
    That is your opinion. Now, unless you are a member of Law Enforcement, and can articulate where training says that an officer under threat of bodily harm, or life is supposed to let a threat continue toward him or her then your opinion is ALL it is...

    I understand it is a tragedy that young Mr. Brown was killed in this altercation, and that you don't think he should have been, but you are not the officer, or LE of any kind, so we have yet to hear more evidence on the case in that respect...If there is something that Officer Wilson did wrong concerning this, then the GJ will indict, if not case closed.
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Can please quote the witness? I believe the witness, if we're talking about the same one, stated that Brown was holding his "stomach" and stumbling forward. Not charging Wilson.
    Try the witness in this video starting at 06:55.


    He was surprised and thought that the Officer was missing Brown because Brown kept moving towards him. Which is not stumbling, though he obviously did stumble later.
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Try the witness in this video starting at 06:55.


    He was surprised and thought that the Officer was missing Brown because Brown kept moving towards him. Which is not stumbling, though he obviously did stumble later.
    I wish I could find it, but I remember there was a report at the recent gathering for LE SWAT teams in Texas, and the press was all over it. Anyway, there was a liberal reporter that was invited to go through one of the live screen simulators that depicted a very similar scene to that of the Brown shooting...When the liberal reporter emptied her clip into the man on the screen, her response was something to the effect, "He continued to come at me, so I stopped him..." That's exactly right.
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Can please quote the witness? I believe the witness, if we're talking about the same one, stated that Brown was holding his "stomach" and stumbling forward. Not charging Wilson.
    Wouldn't even know how to locate it again. However, as I recall.. The guy said he saw Brown come towards the officer, the officer said stop then shot. Brown continued coming and the officer shot again. It's possible it may have been a stumble during that second vollley.. But that doesn't really matter to what the cop saw/interpreted it and his fear for life after having just been beaten..

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wrong again. In addition,; WTF are you talking about?

    Nothing has been made up except for that by the witnesses that supported Dorian Johnson's account.
    That has already been proven.

    So again.
    We already know the publicly known accounts which supported Johnson's, and by virtue, Brown, were not credible.
    They have been falling apart from the get, from claims being outright false to changing to fit the known forensics.
    Of course those accounts, as known, have no credibility.
    What is not known is what these folks told investigators or the GJ if they testified.

    He wasn't shot in the back as claimed. They didn't see that, and were just mimicking Dorian's false account. And yes, their claim has already been proven to be false.
    Then they changed their stories about his hands being up. To they were just up a little, to they were just going up. Clearly demonstrating that they lied.

    And yet here you are accusing me of making things up (when I clearly haven't) when it was them who did so. All you have done is expose your ignorance of the subject.

    You are the one obviously making things up about others. So stop making things up.
    Please show me the report that hasn't been completed yet stating that the witnesses stories does not match up. I don't give a damn about any right wing or left wing bloggers. For your education, those are called opinions. I don't give a damn about leaks because there have been "leaks" in past cases that ended up being false. So please show me the examiner report or a official grand jury statement that says that the Brown's witnesses were false.

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Try the witness in this video starting at 06:55.


    He was surprised and thought that the Officer was missing Brown because Brown kept moving towards him. Which is not stumbling, though he obviously did stumble later.
    I could barely hear the guy talking because of the camera man talking and the loud chick across the street. I don't know. One can say that he was moving toward the cop with his hands up like "Look I surrender, stop shooting at me" If he ran at him like you want to believe, then why didn't the witness just say that he was running at the cop? And from that distance, was Brown suicidal? Did he want die? If that was the case why did he run the first time?

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Holder, what a joke...

    He's mad that the Grand Jury leaked information that could " shape public opinion " ??

    What a hypocrite. He's been trying to " shape public opinion " since the shooting.

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Was Brown having a psychotic episode of irrational behavior and irrational thinking?

    Was it negligent for Wilson to approach Brown after the first encounter, in which two shots were fired?

    Was it negligent for Wilson to get out of his patrol car, when Brown was moving away? Would it have been more prudent for Wilson have waited for back-up to arrive, before getting out of his car, or giving orders for Brown to get on the ground?

    The autopsy report and blood inside Wilson's SUV gives evidence that verifies an altercation inside the SUV. How does the evidence of an altercation inside the SUV, help to determine the motivation of Wilson to further antagonize Brown, by getting out of his SUV, when Brown was moving away from Wilson?

    Was it negligent for Wilson to believe that Brown might submit to arrest, by one officer, after the first altercation with Brown?

    Was Wilson acting out of Anger at Brown, when Wilson attempted to arrest Brown outside the SUV? Did Wilson claim self-defense at the point of time when Brown was moving away from the SUV and Wilson was getting out of the SUV to arrest Brown? How can the Grand Jury know that Wilson was not acting out of Anger when Wilson was initially trying to arrest Brown, after exiting the SUV?

    If Wilson was negligent, in some way, then the charge could be Manslaughter. If Wilson acted in Anger at some point, then the charge could be murder. Would it not be logical for a policeman to feel anger after having to fire two shots to scare off Brown in close combat?

    When police encounter a person having a psychotic episode, should officers be trained to wait for enough back-up, so that deadly force can be avoided, when there is time to wait for back-up?

    Was it negligent for Wilson to antagonize Brown by cursing at Brown?

    Was it negligent for Wilson to back up his SUV in such a manner as to frighten Brown and the witness who was walking with Brown? Was that a threat of deadly force? Was deadly force justified at the time of backing-up incident?


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