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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    from all the westerns i watched as a kid, the guys who were shot with their hands up then moved their hands to the place on the body where the bullet entered
    would this young man not be expected to do the same
    I don't know what that means. If his hands were up and he was shot, how would the bullets enter on the other side of his arm?

    Are you saying his arm movements were faster than the velocity of the bullets, plural?

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    The protestors are upset that details are starting to leak out... After being upset for so long that everything was secretive.

    Police and protesters in Ferguson, Missouri, clashed once again Wednesday night as tensions boiled over during a planned demonstration against the shooting of Michael Brown by police officer Darren Wilson in August.
    Activists said the leak of the report to the newspaper simply added to tensions in the community, which has been the site of numerous protests, including last nights where there have been regular clashes between demonstrators and police, in the 10 weeks since the shooting.

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Why did Wilson not use pepper spray, after Brown was moving away from the car, then coming back toward Wilson, still outside the cruiser?

    Why did Wilson not have a stun gun with him?



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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Why did Wilson not use pepper spray, after Brown was moving away from the car, then coming back toward Wilson, still outside the cruiser?

    Why did Wilson not have a stun gun with him?



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    You're kidding right? An officer, who had already pulled the trigger twice after hand to hand combat with the subject IN THE POLICE VEHICLE isn't going to regress into using a less lethal alternative.

    He had already wounded the suspect with little responce and he continue to attack. The officer was indeed worried about his own life at that point.
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    [QUOTE=Excon;1063898763]As you were told.

    Sadly? Nah!
    It is what happens when thugs bite off more than they can chew.






    You are speaking utter nonsense.


    No, his discharge was not for racial bigotry.
    actually, his dismissal from the police force WAS for racial bigotry
    the entire force was terminated because of it

    That is your bigotry speaking.
    no. my information tracks news stories such as this one:
    Darren Wilson’s first police job was in the small town of Jennings, MO–and the police department had such a troubled history with racial tensions between white officers and black residents that the city eventually disbanded it. Three years ago, every single officer–including Wilson–was fired, and new people were hired in an effort to regain credibility with residents.
    Cop Who Killed Michael Brown Formerly Worked for Police Dept. Disbanded for Racism, Corruption | Americans Against the Tea Party

    His discharge was because his job no longer existed because the Department was disbanded.
    yes, that job continued to exist. only it was filled instead by another LEO who was found not to be tainted by a history of racist behavior
    every member of that jennings police department was fired. because of the persistence of racial bigotry they exhibited. including the shooter of the young black man

    Why it was disbanded was not attributable to him.
    and one must question why a innocent would have been fired for racist actions while serving as a law enforcement officer

    And he had a clean record at that department.
    now, let's all ponder what a "clean record" would look like within a police department which was disbanded because its members were found to act in a racist manner towards the black community it was intended to serve

    and then let's also ponder why a police officer who was innocent of racist charges did nothing to preserve his job; he took no action to resist his firing for engaging in racist behavior. he did nothing to preserve his integrity as an honest cop. instead he was fired for being a member of a department which was found to engage in racist actions





    That is a ridiculously absurd claim.

    You do understand that the interviews came before this testimony, right?
    You do understand that it is reported that he said during interviews that he did not remember, right?
    You do understand that other witnesses have him telling Brown to stop before turning, right?
    You do understand that the GJ testimony came after his interviews, right?
    Interviews ~ didn't remember
    After interviews ~ remembered
    During GJ testimony ~ relayed what he remembered

    So how is it that you do not understand that him remembering what happened (especially as it was witnessed by others) prior to testifying to the GJ allowed him to testify to such?

    That is how things work with memory, or did you also not know that?
    And yet you want to call it a lie. That is just stupid.

    And what is funny about this is your focus on something that is completely irrelevant.
    Whether or not he remembered makes absolutely no difference to what happened prior to Brown turning, or after he turned and began approaching him.
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I agree that one should wait till investigation is completed and released before drawing any conclusions.

    Why the emphasis on black and white witness. I don't care what color/race a witness is. All witness statements need to be collaborated by other evidence.
    Is there not witnesses that support Wilson's description on the event. No I don't find it suspicious that Wilson may not have mentioned at the time about Browns hand position.
    One could say by not doing so makes the witness statements suspect.


    I can't/won't speak for other posters. One reason I don't like all inclusive statements.
    I agree with little facts that have been given it is most likely a clean shoot.

    As far as your last statement. Yep, many have made up their minds. Just like the protesters in the other St. Luis ? event where a black teenager shot at the police. The police returned fire and the kid died. People are angry because the police shot another black kid. Never mind the kid fired first. So goes the world.
    Because many on here(not necessarily you ) don't find any of the black witnesses credible.

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You're kidding right? An officer, who had already pulled the trigger twice after hand to hand combat with the subject IN THE POLICE VEHICLE isn't going to regress into using a less lethal alternative.
    the cop was in the police SUV
    not the victim ... except for the portion of him which would fit into the driver side window
    and if anyone were to be tugged into such a window would your immediate response not be fight or flee
    and that's what happened. he fought until he was able to flee
    and when he was fleeing, he was no threat to the shooter
    and witnesses tell us the young black man subordinated himself before the cop. at that time he was twenty feet away from the shooter. there was no 'threat' to the shooter

    He had already wounded the suspect with little responce and he continue to attack.
    "with little response" does not square with witness accounts. the black victim ran FROM the police SUV and was twenty feet from the shooting cop. he was in a subordinate position, offering no resistance
    there was no basis for the cop to shoot at that time

    The officer was indeed worried about his own life at that point.
    with the young black man now twenty feet away, in a subordinated position, and wounded. and notably, without an armed weapon. please share with us why the shooter was still worried about his own life at this point
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I don't know what that means. If his hands were up and he was shot, how would the bullets enter on the other side of his arm?

    Are you saying his arm movements were faster than the velocity of the bullets, plural?
    i am saying that it is unrealistic to expect the person in the subordinate position to keep holding his hands up in a sign of surrender at the time he is shot. one's hands are instinctively going to go to the place of the wound rather than being held in the surrender position
    and this is significant because there are some who are trying to paint the hand movement away from the surrender position validates the shooter's belief that he was threatened by the shooting victim at the time the shots were fired
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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and one must question why a innocent would have been fired for racist actions while serving as a law enforcement officer
    The entire police force was disbanded - both those that did wrong and those that did no wrong were without a job. There is no indication that he was of the group that did wrong. in fact.. there have been indiciations that he was one of those that did no wrong.

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    Re: Source: Darren Wilson says Michael Brown kept charging at him

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    and if anyone were to be tugged into such a window would your immediate response not be fight or flee
    Right.. Because it's at all beleiveable that someone is going to be sitting in a car and attempt to pull a 300 lb 6 foot man through a car window.

    You would also, apparently, believe that no one slammed the door shut when Wilson attempted to exit his vehicle.. it just bounced off someone and closed on the officer


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