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    Re: Turkey Would Oppose US Arms Transfers to Kurds

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    This man Selman Ateş is so called manager of PKK terrrorist organisation for the city ''Hakkari'' in southeastern Turkey, He has ordered many attacks in Turkey, he was captured in a Turkish hospital; He was injured in the fight between the Is and pyd in Ayn Al-arab ,and brought in Turkey through the border control point which is still open for aid. the picture taken before entering Turkey has helped him captured in hospital.

    He said he does not remember his past.


    Another so called manager for the city Diyarbakır in southeastern Turkey was captured in the same way.

    In Turkey There are tens of YPG ( armed force of PYD) members killed in Ayn al-Arab. They were brought in Turkey and burried, which is later understood that they are actually members of PKK terrorists or sympathizers in Turkey. Here is one of them:

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    In the pic A killed member of ypg/pkk terrorist organisation is carried, whose name is Ali Malgaz. You see the flag of the pkk terrorist organisation on the right, and you see the picture of prisoned leader of pkk terrorist organisation on a flag that is next to the car in yellow and also on the ambulance in front of the woman with headscarf.

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    Supporting a terrorist organisation that is a threat to your ally for 3 decades is the worst move you can make in order to defeat another terrorist organisation.
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    Re: Turkey Would Oppose US Arms Transfers to Kurds

    We can't turn our backs on the Kurds again. A compromise must be struck with Turkey.

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    Re: Turkey Would Oppose US Arms Transfers to Kurds

    The Kurds in Iraq and Syria are excellent fighters and they battle ISIS at every opportunity.

    They are far more dependable than either Turkey or the "moderate" Arab militia's Washington keeps searching for.


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    Re: Turkey Would Oppose US Arms Transfers to Kurds

    The US has re-supplied the Kurdish fighters in Kobane:

    U.S. drops weapons, aid to Kurds fighting Islamic State in Syria

    Under pressure, Turkey is finally allowing Kurdish reinforcements into Kobane:

    Turkey helping Kurdish fighters cross into Kobani


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    Re: Turkey Would Oppose US Arms Transfers to Kurds

    It appears as though Turkey has begun to shift gears and is bowing to pressure from Europe and Washington to allow Kurdish reinforcements into Kobani. Though some are casting this as a case of Erdogan saying one thing for domestic and another for foreign consumption I'm skeptical. I think this is deeply frustrating for Erdogan and he's bowing to a fait accompli in the best way he can. I'm just surprised he hasn't reacted more petulantly.

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    Re: Turkey Would Oppose US Arms Transfers to Kurds

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    The US has re-supplied the Kurdish fighters in Kobane:

    U.S. drops weapons, aid to Kurds fighting Islamic State in Syria

    Under pressure, Turkey is finally allowing Kurdish reinforcements into Kobane:

    Turkey helping Kurdish fighters cross into Kobani
    This was a telling quote in the Post article you linked:

    Kurds defending the Syrian border town also said they had not yet cleared the way for Iraqi Kurds — underscoring deep Kurdish differences despite their common enemy.
    Hmm. Interesting comment. So the way I read this is the Syrian Kurds don't trust the Iraqi Kurds, even though the Syrian Kurds remain under intense military pressure.
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    Re: Turkey Would Oppose US Arms Transfers to Kurds

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Excellent news. It should have been done long ago.
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    Re: Turkey Would Oppose US Arms Transfers to Kurds

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Turkey is an ally in name only. They have done nothing for their billions in foreign aid other than frustrate the US every possible time they have the opportunity to do so. It's time we stopped all aid and removed our base from Incirlik. Since the Turks won't actually let us use it, it serves no purpose.
    Turkey's NATO membership should be re-examined at the next NATO get-together.

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    Re: Turkey Would Oppose US Arms Transfers to Kurds

    The eternal ass-dragging of Congress will continue with vacations from July 31st save seven official days .

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    Ass-dragging is one of Obama's biggest characteristics.
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    Re: Turkey Would Oppose US Arms Transfers to Kurds

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Have you reviewed your own material?
    Well, unlike you, I was trying to avoid cherry picking by presenting a "fair and balanced" complete academic assessment of these groups. So let me take this opportunity to be a little less impartial using the same source:

    The PYD has been accused of close collaboration with both the PKK and the Syrian regime. There is substantial evidence to indicate the close relationship between the PKK and the PYD, especially at the leadership level.
    The Kurdistan Workers’ Party’s (PKK) regional terrorist campaign resulted in the U.S. State Department designating the group as a Foreign Terrorist Organization in 1997. Most of its key leaders, including Abdullah Ocalan, Murat Karayilan, and Cemil Bayik, are listed on the U.S. Treasury Department’s Specially Designated Nationals list.
    The PKK continues to advocate for armed struggle to achieve their political goals, and they hold a vested interest in the course taken by Syria’s Kurdish population. The PKK especially fears losing influence among Syria’s Kurds to the KRG, which reinforces the PKK’s interest in the military strength of their Syrian ally, the PYD.
    Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan accused the Assad regime of attempting to destabilize Turkey by turning over much of the border region of northern Syria to the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) insurgents, reputed to have close ties to the PYD.
    Cleavages persist between various parties within the KNC, which have hampered its ability to organize effectively. However, these divisions fall outside the scope of this discussion. The one factor uniting the KNC parties is their opposition to the PYD, which is why this paper refers to the KNC as a singular entity.
    So what it looks like to me is we have some serious political divisions, but due to the current emergency the Iraqi Kurds are willing to set those aside for the moment in order to repel ISIS from Kurdish territory. What's not clear is whether the PYD folks are willing to put aside theirs.
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