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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    I say we need to try a little experiment: Have the voters show their picture ID when they go to the polls, but don't require it to actually vote. Give everyone who does show a picture ID five bucks for their trouble.

    Then, we'd know just how many voters actually don't have picture ID.

    My prediction? Maybe half a dozen or so.
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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So, help me out. Do ID laws for gun purchases stop criminals from purchasing guns?
    So help me out here. How does one go about casting a black market vote? Since you want to play the apples and oranges game, I figured you'd have to have the answer to that.
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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Where did I hear what?

    If you think any of it isn't true, please tell me why you think that?

    Fact is hundreds of thousands of Texans will need
    an ID they don't need in their daily lives to vote.
    No one disputes that. So when someone says, "THEY need ID to do _____" it's always a BS point, false or irrelevant.
    That's self-contradictory if they want to vote but leaving that aside ... here are the criteria to register and vote ...



    Who can vote in Texas?

    To be eligible to register to vote in Texas, a person must be:
    •A United States citizen;
    •A resident of the Texas county in which application for registration is made;
    •At least 18 years old on Election Day;
    •Not finally convicted of a felony, or, if so convicted must have (1) fully discharged the sentence, including any term of incarceration, parole, or supervision, or completed a period of probation ordered by any court; or (2) been pardoned or otherwise released from the resulting disability to vote; and
    •Not determined by a final judgment of a court exercising probate jurisdiction to be (1) totally mentally incapacitated; or (2) partially mentally incapacitated without the right to vote.


    How do you register?

    Registering to vote is easy in Texas. It doesn't even require a stamp! Official applications to register to vote are postage-paid by the State of Texas.

    In most Texas counties, the County Tax Assessor-Collector is also the County Voter Registrar. In some counties, the County Clerk or County Elections Administrator registers voters. You may obtain an application from the County Voter Registrar's office, the Secretary of State's Office, libraries, many post offices, or high schools. From our website, you may request that we send you an official, postage-paid application. Or, you may download an informal application, but you will be required to affix a stamp before mailing. You may also register to vote when you apply for or renew your driver's license.

    Read the instructions on the form, fill it out and mail it postage-free to the County Voter Registrar, or hand-deliver it to the County Voter Registrar's office.

    You must be at least 17 years and 10 months of age on the date you apply. If for any reason you cannot register yourself, with your permission, your spouse, parent or child may fill out and sign an application for you if that person is a registered voter or has applied for voter registration. This person is known as your "agent."

    The application must be received in the County Voter Registrar's office or postmarked 30 days before an election in order for you to be eligible to vote in that election. You will receive a voter registration certificate in the mail after the County Voter Registrar has processed your voter registration application. Upon receipt of the voter registration certificate, sign it, fold it and keep in it in your wallet and take it to the polls with you when you vote.

    All voters who registered to vote in Texas must provide a Texas driver's license number or personal identification number issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety or the last four digits of your social security number. If you have not been issued any of these numbers, then you must state that fact on the application by checking the designated box.

    What if I don't have a driver's license, personal identification number, OR a social security number? Can I still register to vote in Texas?

    A voter who has not been issued a driver’s license or social security number may register to vote, but such voter must submit proof of identification when presenting himself/herself for voting or with his/her mail-in ballots, if voting by mail. These voters’ names are flagged on the official voter registration list with the annotation of “ID.” The “ID” notation instructs the poll worker to request a proper form of identification from these voters when they present themselves for voting, unless they are a voter with a permanent exemption on the voter registration certificate. The voter must present one of the seven (7) acceptable forms of identification:
    •Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS)
    •Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
    •Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
    •Texas concealed handgun license issued by DPS
    •United States military identification card containing the person’s photograph
    •United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s photograph
    •United States passport



    Now, explain why it's so onerous.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Here is the data presented at trail about this matter,
    https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov...fact_sheet.pdf
    This is not just numbers spoken for the media but presented as evidence in court.
    That's an excellent link and quite comical, with the Democrats looking always more foolish with their desperate claims. Laws based on hypotheticals tend to be bad laws.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    That's funny. Good one!!

    In court, where baseless claims are subject to higher scrutiny than chain emails and talk radio, defenders of the photo ID laws don't even try that that nonsense.
    And the obvious is that the left sees fraudulent voting as an advantage to democrats. That is why they are against Voter ID. No honest American who is concerned about the integrity of voting in the US should be against of voter ID. You are obviously more concerned with turnout then honest elections.[/QUOTE]

    Nah, if we wanted more fraudulent voting, we'd be glad the non-existent impersonation fraud at the polls was being addressed instead of absentee voting, and so would keep our mouths shut about Photo ID to make sure idiot republicans left the REAL barn door (absentee ballots) open.
    I hate to be the one to break this to you, however there is a move to add voter ID to absentee ballots as well. Some states already have it. Soon that door will be closed as well.

    "Signature and witness verification
    Florida, a swing state, had a major recount dispute over voting and ballot irregularities that took center stage in the 2000 presidential election. With election results that were not known for a month after the November 7, 2000, election, more states have required absentee voters to have a witness sign off on the certification on the envelope or submit a photocopy of a photo ID when submitting an absentee ballot. This law, which attempts to prevent absentee voter fraud, has been championed for a long time by organizations like the National Campaign for Fair Elections and the Heritage Foundation."


    And you are being blatantly dishonest when suggesting that voter fraud is non-existent at the polls. Again....the truth is that you are against voter ID simply because you see voter fraud as a benefit to the democrats. We have been through this argument before.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Really? Tell me how that works for online signups? Does everyone signing up online have to scan and upload their ID, or maybe they just wave it in front of their iPhone camera, and we all know all the poor have a smart phone?

    Never mind online signups. Try getting the healthcare at the point of service without a photo ID. I am always asked for my drivers license or a state ID card.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Never mind online signups. Try getting the healthcare at the point of service without a photo ID. I am always asked for my drivers license or a state ID card.
    Exactly. Try getting a lot of things without a photo ID. Use a credit card. Visit a national or state park on an annual pass. drive a car. cash a check. open a bank account.

    How many people can there really be who actually go to the polls, but don't do any of the above? Surely, the few if any could be provided with photo ID at minimal cost.
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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Exactly. Try getting a lot of things without a photo ID. Use a credit card. Visit a national or state park on an annual pass. drive a car. cash a check. open a bank account.

    How many people can there really be who actually go to the polls, but don't do any of the above? Surely, the few if any could be provided with photo ID at minimal cost.
    I've argued that the ID should be provided free, same day, at the polling station, but the GOP doesn't seem keen on that.
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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I've argued that the ID should be provided free, same day, at the polling station, but the GOP doesn't seem keen on that.
    That's because such an idea is ludicrous. Polling places should not be expected to have the infrastructure in place for official state IDs that cannot be done the same day even at the places where they are presently obtained.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    That's because such an idea is ludicrous. Polling places should not be expected to have the infrastructure in place for official state IDs that cannot be done the same day even at the places where they are presently obtained.
    It is my understanding, that facilities have been put in place to issues voter ID, in every county in Texas.
    It will be interesting to see how many id's are actually issued.

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