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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Sure, if you have no car and no driver's license, how difficult can it be to get to an ID office 75 miles away. Great point Grant. We can tell you've given it a lot of thought.
    Where is this hypothetical place you're referring to, and how would they travel 75 miles to vote?

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Where is this hypothetical place you're referring to, and how would they travel 75 miles to vote?
    One third of Texas counties have no place that issues these "free" IDs.

    All those counties will have at least one, probably many, places to VOTE.

    It's frustrating to have a debate when the other side doesn't know the most basic facts about the case. This was all covered in the district court decision, and in many stories about that decision.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    One third of Texas counties have no place that issues these "free" IDs.

    All those counties will have at least one, probably many, places to VOTE.

    It's frustrating to have a debate when the other side doesn't know the most basic facts about the case. This was all covered in the district court decision, and in many stories about that decision.
    You would encourage debate if you provided links. Not everyone has your specialized knowledge but may be interested in learning.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You failed to notice that was phrased in the form of a question. Rules are BURDENSOME, are they? The American people were once made of sterner stuff. As far as 'costly' did they mention what the cost would be?
    Yes, all covered in excruciating detail in the district court's decision. From a few dollars for an instate birth certificate to several hundred dollars, not counting time off from work to get the underlying documents, travel to the nearest location, etc.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    You would encourage debate if you provided links. Not everyone has your specialized knowledge but may be interested in learning.
    I'm running between errands, but here's a link to the district court decision. http://electionlawblog.org/wp-conten...ID-Opinion.pdf

    Here's one story that covers the basics of that decision. FEDERAL COURT STRIKES DOWN TEXAS GOP'S POLLING PLACE PHOTO ID RESTRICTION LAW | The BRAD BLOG

    In Texas, as Democratic lawmakers had pointed out while the bill was being debated, some registered voters would have to travel as far as 250 miles round trip to receive their "free" ID from a state Dept. of Public Safety (DPS) driver's license facility, presuming they owned or were able to afford buy the underlying documentation required to obtain that "free" ID. The burden would be especially difficult for those without drivers licenses in the first place. Moreover, as the DoJ had previously found, "in 81 of the state’s 254 counties, there are no operational driver’s license offices," and many of them have limited hours of operation.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Black Man Standing is not "intimidation." What, do you think black people are inherently intimidating? Is open carry inherently intimidating?
    The man holding the baton or whatever it is looks intimidating to me. That's a weapon, not a walking stick, and if I saw any group of guys wearing uniforms and milling around the polling place, I would at least be very concerned.

    More to the point, two New Black Panthers were charged with voter intimidation in the Philly case.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I think the point is, if nearly all "voter" fraud occurs through absentee ballots, and those are ignored, and almost NO "voter" fraud occurs through impersonation at the polls, anyone who believes that clean elections are the motivation of the new Photo ID rules is delusional.
    It is a fantasy that almost no voter fraud occurs through impersonation at the polls. That is in fact where most of it occurs.

    The purpose is to drive down the voting by democratic leaning demographics. We're all adults, we can recognize the obvious.
    And the obvious is that the left sees fraudulent voting as an advantage to democrats. That is why they are against Voter ID. No honest American who is concerned about the integrity of voting in the US should be against of voter ID. You are obviously more concerned with turnout then honest elections.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    The voter ID in Texas is free at any DPS office, so you are wrong about the ID's costing money.
    The working poor must have an ID to be working, so you can take them off the list.
    On election day, there seems to be an unlimited supply of buses to take the elderly to the polls.

    TxDPS - Election Identification Certificate (EIC)
    Not to mention they also need ID to sign up for Obamacare.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    One third of Texas counties have no place that issues these "free" IDs. All those counties will have at least one, probably many, places to VOTE. It's frustrating to have a debate when the other side doesn't know the most basic facts about the case. This was all covered in the district court decision, and in many stories about that decision.
    If they have many places to vote then it follows that there can be many places to pick up ID.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Yes, all covered in excruciating detail in the district court's decision. From a few dollars for an instate birth certificate to several hundred dollars, not counting time off from work to get the underlying documents, travel to the nearest location, etc.
    It does seem burdensome if everyone in Texas lives 75 miles from anywhere else.

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