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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Sure, I agree. High deficits require painful choices to solve - spending cuts OR tax increases OR both.

    What we're debating is whether to cut the deficit whether Obama should have just passed more tax CUTS, since tax cuts allegedly, per GOPers, pay for themselves.... Or not. Those of us in the reality based world choose the option that does NOT rely on magic, revenue increasing tax cuts, as a foundation of fiscal policy.

    FWIW, the deficit was reduced by half by 2013, not 2012.
    How much did they borrow in order to cut the budget deficit in half? It's a shell game they're playing and no amount of tax increases could pay for the spending that's going on or the debt which has been created.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Then perhaps you should listen more.
    Thanks...let me adjust my anti-nonsense hearing aids.
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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Then perhaps you should listen more.
    I think the problem is they listen too much and do too little research. They buy the leftwing rhetoric and ignore the actual results. Wonder why? What the hell do these people get out of supporting a massive central govt. and liberalism?

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Interesting, how is Treasury data nonsense? Seems that nonsense data is any data that doesn't support the leftwing agenda and proves how foolish liberals are?
    Hold your horses, big feller...

    Look, it's been years since I've played "Spin the Reaganomics Numbers". So relax and when I take look...I'll get back. How's that?
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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I think the problem is they listen too much and do too little research. They buy the leftwing rhetoric and ignore the actual results. Wonder why? What the hell do these people get out of supporting a massive central govt. and liberalism?
    Uh huh...and as Paul Harvey use to say..."And now, for the rest of the story". Your number aren't giving all of the facts that give the final picture of what transpired during the Reagan days.

    As I said before, hold your horse. I'll get back when I have to say what I have to say. Until then...Jack will be happy to listen to every claim you make...and agree. That ought to make you feel good. Yes?
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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Uh huh...and as Paul Harvey use to say..."And now, for the rest of the story". Your number aren't giving all of the facts that give the final picture of what transpired during the Reagan days.

    As I said before, hold your horse. I'll get back when I have to say what I have to say. Until then...Jack will be happy to listen to every claim you make...and agree. That ought to make you feel good. Yes?
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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How much did they borrow in order to cut the budget deficit in half? It's a shell game they're playing and no amount of tax increases could pay for the spending that's going on or the debt which has been created.
    I'm not interested in discussing Obama - not what we're debating.

    And of course we could raise taxes high enough to fund current spending. It just takes political will. Virtually all of Europe taxes at levels higher than current U.S. spending.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Section 3 Expenses and Revenue but I posted the data for you. How does income tax revenue increase like that with three straight years of tax cuts?
    It was ONE year of tax cuts (ERTA 81), followed by the largest tax increase in history at that point (TEFRA 82), and then another tax increase in 1983. More tax increases in 84, 85, 86 and 87. We've been through this.

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I think the problem is they listen too much and do too little research. They buy the leftwing rhetoric and ignore the actual results. Wonder why? What the hell do these people get out of supporting a massive central govt. and liberalism?
    Alright, remember the premise here. Tax cuts increase revenue, so tax increases must reduce revenue. It's the way these things have to work.

    I've already explained that GDP grew by roughly 33% for both Reagan and Clinton, but tax grew by only 20% under Reagan and by roughly 45% under Clinton. But that calculation uses liberal inflation adjustments that make real comparisons over time possible, but which conservatives reject because they like it simple. So let's keep it simple and ignore liberal inflation.

    Receipts in nominal figures increased 53% during the Reagan years, but 83% under Clinton. How can that be true, if tax increases reduce revenues? In fact, tax increases caused tax revenues to increase faster than tax cuts, as math predicts...

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    Re: SC allows Texas to use New Voter ID Law

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It was ONE year of tax cuts (ERTA 81), followed by the largest tax increase in history at that point (TEFRA 82), and then another tax increase in 1983. More tax increases in 84, 85, 86 and 87. We've been through this.
    Some perspective seems in order.

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